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    Re: [Deck] W/x Parfait (Tax/Rack Control)

    Iíve been playing Wr since the unbanning of tax and can tell you itís extremely competitive. Blue does give access to some neat cards, but I think that also lends itself to taking away some of the strengths of mono white as immediately you want to play a ďblue deckĒ. Chants and a tool box are part of the competitive edge especially when combined with blanking many of our opponents cards. The only glass cannon here is the pilot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Weapon X View Post
    The only glass cannon here is the pilot.
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    The only glass cannon here is the pilot.
    I play decks with a lot of white enchantments, and white isn't even my favorite color.

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    Wow it got a little personal already, try not to be a tool about it as thereís already too few people playing legacy.

    My win rate is decent as long as I can protect land tax and thatís my point. Without it, there is no engine. Iím a little unclear of the benefits of Wr over UW when Supreme Verdict is a strict upgrade over Wrath, and Back to Basics is probably superior to Blood moon. The rest of your deck is either single W mana or an artifact?

    Iíll concede that I havenít looked too deeply into your sideboard. Enlighten me.

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    Re: [Deck] W/x Parfait (Tax/Rack Control)

    The engine is great, itís the reason to play parfait after all. You can win without the engine however, or you should be able to. Perhaps thatís why you went the blue route? The fact that the deck can contain so many must answer cards is an indirect strength.

    The best reason for red is simply how little you need for such big/relevant plays. Blasts are reason number 1. Heavy blue makes it easy to take out bad cards for blast against most of the field. Blood moon is the main reason however. With everyone wanting to play greedy mana bases without basics a resolved bloodmoon means game against a lot of decks. Charbelcher is also a great secondary win condition that takes advantage of what we are trying to do anyway while also doubling as a colourless removal spell if needed against Iona for example. Having a single mountain means that we can potentially win with a 10 card library. Nahiri has also proved to be a great addition. The filtering alone is great but the removal is gravy.

    I wouldnít call supreme verdict a strict upgrade over wrath. Back to basics is far from superior to blood for obvious reasons. Not sure how to really comment on the rest. Sorry you felt attacked, but this is far from something like oops all spells (an actual glass cannon).
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    Interesting, thanks for your views. Why do you play Oblivion ring over Councilís judgement?

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    Why do you play Oblivion ring over Councilís judgement?
    You can fetch O-Ring with E-tutor. That's part of the strengths of the toobox.
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    The only glass cannon here is the pilot.
    I play decks with a lot of white enchantments, and white isn't even my favorite color.

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    Re: [Deck] W/x Parfait (Tax/Rack Control)

    7 > 4

    It is a big part of the tool box while being a card type that is not specifically targeted. Also maybe youíve played against show and tell?

    I do have a single councilís judgment in my sideboard but it is mainly there as an answer for something I canít target. Most removal that Iím playing will not be dead simply by being versatile.
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    For this reason, shouldn't we switch the mana base to Snow-Covered and play some number of On Thin Ice instead of StP?
    Quote Originally Posted by Weapon X View Post
    The only glass cannon here is the pilot.
    I play decks with a lot of white enchantments, and white isn't even my favorite color.

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    Re: [Deck] W/x Parfait (Tax/Rack Control)

    Well I play path, but that gives us instant speed removal that can benefit us and have no draw back at all on occasion. Also I play trinisphere as one of my bullets so the ability to have options on an opponents turn also can become relevant. Just imagine a 3sphere in play against delver for instance. An eot path on delver can create all kinds of lines and give potential info to us. Do they let it resolve because they can only play one spell? Is it their only pressure so they have to give you a free turn? In the end itís an instant removal spell vs sorcery speed pseudo removal. Iíd wager that if you think of what youíre removing youíll probably see more value in the instant option. I would like on thin ice in a Quinn build more as I would think tutoring for a single creature removal spell seems bad when Iím already redundant in that area.

    I think that actually highlights a strength of the deck itself. People will play weird against parfait. There are strong prison elements paired with blanking of opponents cards which also makes sideboarding challenging. On one hand we play a very linear game, but we can do it slow or fast. If we dictate the pace we want, we win.
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    Re: [Deck] W/x Parfait (Tax/Rack Control)

    @Weapon X,
    Hi,
    I am just building a Parfait deck in premodern format - I don't know if you know this format, but I love it.
    this is my n.m iteration of the deck and I'd like you to give me some insights/opinion.
    I would have love to build the deck with trinis as one of my iteraions of the deck in legacy, but trini no longer exists, so I built the deck based on you last iteration (also no RiP)
    Context of meta:
    Sligh(with anarchy), Survival, landstill, Enchantress, Goblins, devourer combo, Psychatog, rock with pernis...
    in here there is no FoW!

    there it goes the iteration:

    // Lands
    16 [7E] Plains (4)
    2 [U] Mountain (1)

    // Spells
    1 [TE] Humility
    4 [4E] Land Tax
    4 [TE] Scroll Rack
    4 [MI] Enlightened Tutor
    1 [IA] Zuran Orb
    3 [10E] Aura of Silence
    4 [V10] Mox Diamond
    3 [WL] Argivian Find
    1 [AQ] Ivory Tower
    1 [MI] Sacred Mesa
    1 [C14] Tormod's Crypt
    1 [AL] Soldevi Digger
    1 [US] Planar Birth
    4 [PS] Orim's Chant
    4 [BRB] Swords to Plowshares
    1 [8E] Blood Moon
    2 [8E] Wrath of God
    1 [JU] Solitary Confinement
    1 [6E] Armageddon

    // Sideboard
    SB: 1 [IA] Jester's Cap
    SB: 2 [UD] Replenish
    SB: 1 [C15] Aura of Silence
    SB: 3 [UL] Defense Grid
    SB: 2 [IA] Circle of Protection: Red
    SB: 1 [FNM] Tormod's Crypt
    SB: 2 [A25] Red Elemental Blast
    SB: 1 [B] Black Vise
    SB: 1 [OD] Karmic Justice
    SB: 1 [6E] Armageddon

    NOTES:
    - I really wanted a replacement for Moat, in this format would be great, but nothing exists - uniquely Santuary Island but don't know - Ibeleive the Sol. Confinament approach should should work but needs the Tax/Rck engine active.
    - te armageddon main is great it acts as a pseudo balance, prefer it over Cataclysm
    - really hated to have sowrds/wrath package, but well it seems quite evident to handle those lackeys / J.pup / echantress decree tokens, etc...
    - don't know what to put in side vs gobs / sligh - thy side in apart of anarchy (replenish in her shines) a card that avoid prevention of dmage - so not sure if things like circles would help...
    - bmoon is supposed to be a house, but still not tested - at least shuts down rishadan.
    - love the old synergy of PBirth / SMesa... any other better option or diff?, in here by luck there is no surgical effects, just tormods. well if someone plays JCap then I will loose.
    - at irst I tried a mix of Story Circle / Ivory mask / Sanctuary Isle, but SCircle is like all of these in 1, not sre if needed maybe 1IMask in side or like.
    - not sure about so manye AOSilence but this card is usefull agains lot of the field and prevents Pernis if acumulated as in main I dont have a anwer to a resolved and activated perni (thought in -1 argician +1 replenish main, but not sure - argivian is the nuts, but armageddon also helps proactively vs this.)
    - thought also in incuding at least 1 SerrasSantum, but not sure.

    please let me know your thoughts. in this format this deck really has a lot of potential and is much funnier!
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    Sanctuary Island works.

    You're deck outright loses to Pernious Dead and Abrupt Decay. Fine, I will post the other deck.

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    Re: [Deck] W/x Parfait (Tax/Rack Control)

    Isnít land tax banned in that format?
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    Re: [Deck] W/x Parfait (Tax/Rack Control)

    Quote Originally Posted by Weapon X View Post
    Isnít land tax banned in that format?
    no it isn't,
    look at this deck as example:
    https://www.tcdecks.net/deck.php?id=28239&iddeck=230449

    I don't like that agro iteration.
    you'd love this format, there is no FoW no BS...
    neither decay

    @NidStyles, vs perni I've thought in AOSilence /Armageddon and KarmicJustice/Replenish from Side
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    Re: [Deck] W/x Parfait (Tax/Rack Control)

    Sorry, the ban list I saw was from a year ago. So with that said you can probably play the original vintage list. Iíd consider peace keeper. Beyond that the legacy forum isnít really the place to discuss an alternate format.
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    Congratulations!

    What were your matchups?
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    Congratulations!

    What were your matchups?
    Oh I'm just posting the list; it wasn't me

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    Oh I'm just posting the list; it wasn't me
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