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    I personally couldn’t justify it. The only card I would want on it is chant as the other options I feel lose value with the cost increase and don’t play well with trinisphere.

    That said I know some people still play the no stick.
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    Re: [Deck] W/x Parfait (Tax/Rack Control)

    Hi guys,

    Nice to see that this thread is still going. I haven't played Parfait in a decade but I think about it from time to time. When a new spoiler is released, I still have the reflex of going through the white cards first, in case something would fit in mono-w control.

    The new reprint of Beast Within in white sounds interesting for Parfait. Being able to target your own land to create a blocker sounds nice to my ears.

    The new Mox might be a bit slow though. Diamond and Opal are just faster and more reliable.
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    Always good to hear from parfait royalty.

    I cut an opal from my 3/1 split in favour of another land. Suspend mox doesn’t feel good simply by not being great with trinisphere. It may still be worth a spot over opal in my 3/1 split. I still really like the idea of mox diamond 4 not having an additional cost attached to it.

    Haven’t seen much spoilers myself... a white beast within you say?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Weapon X View Post
    Haven’t seen much spoilers myself... a white beast within you say?
    He's talking about Generous Gift https://scryfall.com/card/mh1/11/generous-gift

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    ...yeah I looked at spoilers immediately after my post.

    It does a lot of the things I want simply by being versatile. I think it may change my sideboard going forward.

    @k-run: does ashtarall/frank ring any bells for you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Weapon X View Post
    It does a lot of the things I want simply by being versatile.
    I mean, under Humility it's a strict upgrade to O-ring.

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    It’s not a strict upgrade to o ring, especially when you need to mention another card.

    I very much look at it from krun’s view. Using it on myself for a surprise blocker and possibly also getting more tax activations. The deck itself is quite anti creature; Having any of our permanents become a potential win condition is very intriguing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Weapon X View Post
    It’s not a strict upgrade to o ring.
    I beg to differ.
    — I'ts instant speed.
    — It can target lands.
    — As you stated above it can give you a surprise blocker.
    — It doesn't have any downside if you have Humility (or any lock really, which is the whole purpose of the deck).

    On another subject, I do agree that the consensus for the new mox would be "It's too slow for us (or even for Legacy in general)".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Weapon X View Post
    @k-run: does ashtarall/frank ring any bells for you?
    No. Who is that supposed to be?

    About Generous Gift over Oblivion Ring:

    I don't think it's a strict upgrade for two reasons:

    1) You can't fetch it with Enlightened Tutor;
    2) Sometimes, it won't solve the problem (i.e destroying a 4/4 will create another creature that can be as fatal). O. Ring doesn't have this downside.
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    It just shows they're not exactly in the same spot. I think we might have to decide a split between the two in the futur.

    Or play one of them in the Side.

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    K-run: I think it was 4 years ago he reached out to me when I first posted my parfait list. Said he was Québécois and played it at Carta Magica in Montreal. Was just curious if there was any lineage to him, you, and parfait.

    As for the suspend mox it will see play, just doesn’t really fit in where we need it to. I could see an aggro red storm using it with living death for artifacts. It not being legendary is of note for sure.
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    Re: [Deck] W/x Parfait (Tax/Rack Control)

    Hi, what do you think of Quarantine Field (https://shop.tcgplayer.com/magic/bat...arantine-field) instead Oblivion Ring? I see no downside, and if you have more mana, you could exile more permanents.....what are I missing?

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    Mana cost is the real issue. 4 mana to tutor and play an o ring vs just casting field says a lot. 6 mana for 2 permanents is terrible. Efficiency is a hallmark of legacy, quarantine field doesn’t really offer that.
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    Re: [Deck] W/x Parfait (Tax/Rack Control)

    How necessary are the mox diamonds in these lists? I've been wanting to get into legacy with a UW variant of this deck for a while now, but the mox are a little beyond my budget.

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    Re: [Deck] W/x Parfait (Tax/Rack Control)

    Lotus petal could work, but you really want the permanent mana. Opal can be a singleton, but Chrome is the next best option.

    For budget friendly, play talismans. But do realize going into that option that the deck will function a little differently.
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    Re: [Deck] W/x Parfait (Tax/Rack Control)

    Quote Originally Posted by Weapon X View Post
    For budget friendly, play talismans. But do realize going into that option that the deck will function a little differently.
    What do you think of Fieldmist Borderpost as another budget option?
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    I’ve mentioned borderposts to a few people as a budget option, but I prefer talismans as they are useable immediately. The early turns are important, so while I like the synergy they offer, I don’t like the free turn they are potentially giving.
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    Hi all, I’m fairly new to this deck but have been playing Mtg since ‘96. I enjoy playing this deck in legacy probably more than any other (I’m mostly an ANT player). I play a UW build as I think Force of Will, Dovin’s Veto (seems so strong so far) and Daze are essential to give it a competitive edge. As well as energy field obviously.

    I don’t bother with counterbalance anymore as it seems a little clunky as you really need two scroll racks out to make the most of it unless I’m playing it wrong haha.

    Has anyone else tried UW recently?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shamusj View Post
    Has anyone else tried UW recently?
    Not only people tested it, but it was a little trend recently. Nolagold streamed it if you want to watch some replays.

    I don't know about this version since I didn't test it. Like any UW control deck, I always feel like it's just a "weak miracles".
    Parfait can get good results with the mono W version (obviously I'm completely overlooking the recent PWs with that statement).

    Also, Dovin's Veto is nice, but I don't know if it's really, "that good".

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    I find this deck to be a glass cannon that can be hated on easily. Dovin’s Veto has put in some good work protecting the engine. In other situations it counters Jace’s.

    Requiring only one blue also helps.

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