Would you actually post in a Vintage subforum?

[lordofthepit]

I'd certainly read and post in a Vintage subforum. I'd also play if there were reasonable proxy tournaments in the Seattle area.

It confuses me why there is no Vintage subforum yet, but there is a Modern subforum. I would expect that most Sourcers identify more closely with Vintage than they do Modern.

[csy]

I'd love to have a vintage forum on the site. Whoever said ny is the best never played at knightware.

[H]

I'd love to have a vintage forum on the site. Whoever said ny is the best never played at knightware.

He meant it is the best for availability of tournaments, which he is completely right.

I don't think there is a place on Earth where every single weekend there is a Vintage tournament available that will almost certainly have ~30 people and be within a 3 hour drive, which is essentially what we have access to here in NY, between us, NJ and PA.

[socialite]

I might have to check this vintage scene out in Boston. Where are these tournaments held?

Here on Tuesdays, we start between 6:30-7:00PM. Staff is very friendly, store is cleaner than most with plenty of space.

He meant it is the best for availability of tournaments, which he is completely right.

I don't think there is a place on Earth where every single weekend there is a Vintage tournament available that will almost certainly have ~30 people and be within a 3 hour drive, which is essentially what we have access to here in NY, between us, NJ and PA.

Yeap!

[Anarky87]

I don't see why not. At the worst it'd be like the Modern subforum where hardly anything happens, so. But like someone else said, Legacy players probably have more in common with Vintage than Modern.

[(nameless one)]

I just learned about Toronto's secret Vintage community and I am actually interested in joining it (I wanna run MUD). I have most of the staples sans the Moxen and Workshop but they do allow proxies.

I would love to learn more about different list/strategies and sideboarding. Also, who knows.

Also the Toronto crew is planning to go to Waterbury this fall and I'd like to see really crazy plays (such as emptying hands of permission trying to resolve a Recall)

[bowvamp]

Hey, I like the Modern subforum. Actually, I just found out about the Modern subforum. :P
As far as T1 is concerned, I remember briefly becoming interested in it around the time Smemmen was working on Manaless Dredge. I built my own version of the deck but was never able to test it. It had all kinds of cool interactions including a fairly strong SB and a couple of creatures that were very techy MD. I think Caldera lands were somewhere in the mix.
EDIT: and by that I mean, I would casually browse it while I take my brief hiatus from the current degenerate legacy environment.

[socialite]

I just learned about Toronto's secret Vintage community and I am actually interested in joining it (I wanna run MUD). I have most of the staples sans the Moxen and Workshop but they do allow proxies.

Yeah so the events in Mississauga seem pretty solid. The host is even willing to loan out decks to people who are interested in playing but do not own the card pool. I would check it out if I were you, Richard is a stand up guy and a very strong Landstill player.

[(nameless one)]

Yeah so the events in Mississauga seem pretty solid. The host is even willing to loan out decks to people who are interested in playing but do not own the card pool. I would check it out if I were you, Richard is a stand up guy and a very strong Landstill player.

Actually it is in Mississauga. And yes, I think it's Richard (the dude who does Vintage events in his basement). I learned it from the folks during the last Moxen tourney at Teddy N Me south.

Dude, are you from Sauga and where do you usually go?

[socialite]

Actually it is in Mississauga. And yes, I think it's Richard (the dude who does Vintage events in his basement). I learned it from the folks during the last Moxen tourney at Teddy N Me south.

Dude, are you from Sauga and where do you usually go?

Yep Yep. I'm from Boston.

If you want to read up before the next event...

Primer and Old Primer.

There's a small amount of articles on Star City Games in regards to Workshops but most of the lists are dated. I would pay attention to Matt Elias or Stephen Menendian in regards to articles. For actual lists I would pay attention to Fabian Moyshewitz (Europe), Nick Detwiler (USA), and Raffaele Forino (USA) as they are the most stand out Workshop players in Type 1.

This is an excellent website for Top 8 lists across USA/Europe. It's a great resource for judging meta games and figuring out what you need to run in the board.

[menace13]

Yeah so the events in Mississauga seem pretty solid. The host is even willing to loan out decks to people who are interested in playing but do not own the card pool. I would check it out if I were you, Richard is a stand up guy and a very strong Landstill player.

Richard and Landstill. Would that be Shockwave? Know him from MTGO. Very cool dude even offered to lend me almost any Legacy deck If I was going to GP Providence.

[socialite]

Richard and Landstill. Would that be Shockwave? Know him from MTGO. Very cool dude even offered to lend me almost any Legacy deck If I was going to GP Providence.

Yeap. Pretty much the guy who put Vintage Landstill on the map.

[aahz]

Since there is much plugging for Vintage events, this seems like a good time to point out that there are 2 Vintage events in California this weekend. This one in Norcal and this one in Socal. Come on out if you can! The west coast needs more Vintage love.

[Koby]

Yeap. Pretty much the guy who put Vintage Landstill on the map.

LOL That's great! I'm sure I frustrated him with my stupid Elves deck online. My how small a community we have in Eternal.

[socialite]

LOL That's great! I'm sure I frustrated him with my stupid Elves deck online. My how small a community we have in Eternal.

I'd be careful a lot of the Landstill lists run EE now, though I believe Shockwave prefers Null Rod still (it's stronger IMHO).

[menace13]

Yeap. Pretty much the guy who put Vintage Landstill on the map.

Nice! Yeah, he jams Standstill in every format forever. Met him playing UR Still in Classic and Legacy events.

[Koby]

I'd be careful a lot of the Landstill lists run EE now, though I believe Shockwave prefers Null Rod still (it's stronger IMHO).

I was referring to Legacy on MTGO, but it's all the same. Landstill does give me fits however in Vintage. Moreso the Mindbreak Traps and Spell Snares maindeck rather than Standstill. Edit: Fuck you Misdirection!!!

[socialite]

For anyone in the NY area here are the three stores who host a majority of the events...

With a little blurb from Nick D the host:

Long Island is shaped like a fish, with the head being Queens and Brooklyn, the middle section being Nassau County and the back end being Suffolk County. Grim is located in the middle of Suffolk County; not so far out as the Hamptons, but far enough out that you're probably not going to make the trip if you're coming from the Boston area. The events at Comicbook Depot are in the middle of Nassau County - it's a much more reasonable drive. The events at Mark's Comics are on the Queens/Nassau border (thus, the best for our travelers).

Here's contact information for the three stores:

Mark's Comics and Collectibles
291 Central Ave
Valley Stream, N.Y.
(516) 872-5919

The Comicbook Depot
2847 Jerusalem Avenue
Wantagh, NY 11793-2016
(516) 221-9337

Brothers Grim
1244 Middle Country Road
Selden, New York
11784
(631) 698-2805

Fuck you Misdirection!!!

QFMFT lol.

[Koby]

On a completely unrelated note, seeing as this is the defacto Vintage thread until the Vintage forum is established (hopefully),

Thoughts on UB/R Welder-Snap control:
Dark Confidant vs Forbidden Alchemy?
Dark Confidant proved incremental advantage and a decent clock, but is weak against random aggro decks
Forbidden Alchemy digs, removes chaffs off the top, and setups insane Y-Will turns. At the expense of high mana cost. It does make good use of Drain mana in the mid-game, and has built in flash-back.

[Koby]

I would also like to add that for those in the Southern California area, there is a Vintage proxy tournament this Sunday at Knightware.

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