Link: Judge! - More Tricky Legacy Interactions
We received amazing feedback with part one, so here's part 2. As with the one before, feel free to mention any odd/quirky interactions in Legacy and we'll try to include it in our next article.
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Regarding Show and Tell and Clone:
The active player puts his or her creature/whatever into play first. So if the second player puts a clone down, isn't the SnT player's card already in play to copy?
They both enter at the same time. This is why Gilded Drake had become a semi-popular SB card. It uses a trigger.
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When it comes to things like Show and Tell or Liliana of the Veil's +1, players can put the card they choose face down so that their opponent doesn't gain any information.
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Try putting Humility via your opponent's Eureka. In case the first permanent he puts is e.g. Terastodon or Angel of Despair, he will be able to actually destroy Humility. Note that this doesn't work if he put any of those creatures into play only after you decided to put your Humility.
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The seven cardinal sins of Legacy:
1. Discuss the unbanning ofLand TaxEarthcraft.
2. Argue that banning Force of Will would make the format healthier.
3. Play Brainstorm without Fetchlands.
4. Stifle Standstill.
5. Think that Gaea's Blessing will make you Solidarity-proof.
6. Pass priority after playing Infernal Tutor.
7. Fail to playtest against Nourishing Lich (coZ iT wIlL gEt U!).
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Use my Tezzeret + Equipment example! I mentioned this interaction in the thread for your first article, but I guess I wasn't specific and I assumed you knew what I was referring to. I'll give you a context so that perhaps you can include it in your next article.
You are playing an Affinity mirror. You're on game 2, and your opponent has the upper hand. You have more life than he does and bigger creatures to block any alpha strikes, yet your opponent has Inkmoth Nexus on the battlefield with a Cranial Plating attached. With 5+ power and the hit it just took on you, you have one turn left to deal with it. You draw a Tezzeret, Agent of Bolas. It's not a flier, and your opponent is just going to kill you instead of attacking Tezz.
What do you do? You cast Tezzeret. Using the 2nd ability, which reads: "-1: Target artifact becomes a 5/5 artifact creature," you target... Cranial Plating! What happens next is neat: the Cranial Plating becomes a 5/5 creature. That doesn't sound good at first, considering you just gave your opponent another beatstick. However, look at Cranial Plating again. It's now a creature, and you can't equip a creature to another creature. Thus, your opponent's Inkmoth Nexus can still animate itself and hit you for 1 poison each turn, but your opponent is going to need more turns now to kill you with infect or it will have to rely on its new 5/5 to kill you. You have big blockers in the example so you can just protect Tezz for a turn and you can just animate an artifact to neutralize the 5/5 if none of your robots are big enough.
Another highly relevant interaction is using Tezzeret to neutralize an opponent's Jitte. Again, you give an opponent's creature deck a 5/5, but considering the nature of Affinity to have big or expendable blockers, it's worth neutralizing one card that can decimate your entire board if left unchecked.
But please, use this interaction in the next article! It's really uncommon. I use this technique against the Affinity mirror alot and most Affinity players never realize that I could Tezz-Animate their Plating.
Last edited by Shawon; 07-30-2012 at 11:01 PM.
It was a bit of a letdown, since the first article described really interesting and little-known interactions, while the ones in part two are quite well known if you're familiar with the format.
Something to consider in the future:
-dredging in your draw step while controlling Sylvan Library
-phasing out a Batterskull token
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On the Show and Tell and Clone bit, it might have been interesting if you had elaborated on how it works with Hypergenesis/Eureka.
When Stoneblade dominated the Merfolk matchup, I actually tested 4 Reality Ripple to combat Batterskull and Umezawa's Jitte. Yes, I was desperate but it actually worked ok.
Warning: Don't try this on Magic Workstation.
The seven cardinal sins of Legacy:
1. Discuss the unbanning ofLand TaxEarthcraft.
2. Argue that banning Force of Will would make the format healthier.
3. Play Brainstorm without Fetchlands.
4. Stifle Standstill.
5. Think that Gaea's Blessing will make you Solidarity-proof.
6. Pass priority after playing Infernal Tutor.
7. Fail to playtest against Nourishing Lich (coZ iT wIlL gEt U!).
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Didn't realize I was being attributed to so many odd interactions. Guess Legacy really is about knowing the cards and how they interact, moreso than having the cards.
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My guess is that he was Rippling the Batterskull, killing the token. When the skull returned from phase it does not cause a new token to appear.
EDIT: Isn't there a charm that does it for u?
"Anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job."
"Politicians are like diapers. They should be changed often and for the same reason."
"Governing is too important to be left to people as silly as politicians."
"Politicians were mostly people who'd had too little morals and ethics to stay lawyers."
If you phase out a token that is equipped, doesn't the equipment stay removed from the game?
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Yep. If something phases out indirectly (by being attached to something that's phasing out), it can only phase in with what it's attached to. If what it's attached to never phases back in, the indirectly phased thing stays phased out permanently. Tokens never phase back in, of course, because they cease to exist once they leave the battlefield.
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Oh of course! That is a nifty play.
"Anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job."
"Politicians are like diapers. They should be changed often and for the same reason."
"Governing is too important to be left to people as silly as politicians."
"Politicians were mostly people who'd had too little morals and ethics to stay lawyers."
You learn something new every day. I assume the same phasing rule applies to Auras.
Yes, both Equipment and Auras are attached to things.
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