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    Re: [Deck] Turbo Eldrazi

    hello last year I sold u/g cloudpost and switched to death and taxes and have had some mediocre finishes a top 32 and a few top 64's in scg's.

    recently the last two scg Columbus events I got 35th and like 48th at the 5k Columbus. I have bought back i to cloudpost, but kinda a brew. let me know what you think.

    lands 26

    4 cloudpost
    4 glimmerpost
    2 vesuva
    4 windswept heath
    3 wooded foothills
    3 forest
    1 bayou
    1 bojuka bog
    1 karakas
    1 eye of ugin
    2 dryad arbor

    creatures 11

    4 primeval titan
    4 deathrite shaman
    1 birds of paradise
    1 emrakul
    1 ulamog

    other spells 23

    4 green sun's zenith
    4 natural order
    3 pithing needle
    4 trinisphere
    3 expedition map
    3 crop rotation
    2 sylvan library

    sideboard15

    1 terastodon
    1 elderscale wurm
    1 gaddock teeg
    1 reclamation sage
    3 ratchet bomb
    3 thoughtseize
    2 elephant grass
    1 krosan grip
    1 glacial clasm
    1 choke

    NO Cloudpost

    let me know what you guys think?

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    Re: [Deck] Turbo Eldrazi

    Quote Originally Posted by NEELEY View Post

    let me know what you guys think?
    It's kind of like you mated Sylvan Plug with 12 post. I like it. My only issue is the birds and deadrite are good with natural order, but is 7 natural order targets enough? You have enough fetches that Titania might also be really good. :0) You can natural order a token I believe? It's green.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maCHOOga View Post
    It's kind of like you mated Sylvan Plug with 12 post. I like it. My only issue is the birds and deadrite are good with natural order, but is 7 natural order targets enough? You have enough fetches that Titania might also be really good. :0) You can natural order a token I believe? It's green.
    I think it has enough targets to use with natural order between fetch lands and GSZ. I haven't tried Titania but for one more generic mana I would think Titan is better, having deathrite is awesome and won a game with arbor and deathrite beats , but had trinisphere in play lol that always helps

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klobster View Post
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    Re: [Deck] Turbo Eldrazi

    The cloudposts were out in force today at Scg philly! Congrats to all who made day two!
    ..and watch out for them sideboarded Ruinations out of miracles... I personally got knocked out in round 9 of 9, had a blast!

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    Quote Originally Posted by maCHOOga View Post
    The cloudposts were out in force today at Scg philly! Congrats to all who made day two!
    ..and watch out for them sideboarded Ruinations out of miracles... I personally got knocked out in round 9 of 9, had a blast!
    http://www.starcitygames.com/events/...breakdown.html

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    Re: [Deck] Turbo Eldrazi

    So unfortunately despite having a 7/0 record day 1 at SCG's I had to drop do to an emergency at home. Anyways I though you guys might be interested in a list, It felt very smooth and I had zero issues with the deck dropping only 2 games.


    Creatures:

    4 Primeval Titian
    1 Emrakrul, the Eon's torn
    1 Kozilek, the butcher of Truth

    Spells:

    3 Crop Rotation
    2 Pithing needle
    4 Brainstorm
    4 Repeal
    2 Treasure Cruise
    3 Expedition Map
    3 Force of Will
    1 Oblivion stone
    2 Show and Tell
    2 Candelabra of Tawnos
    3 Sensei’s Divining Top

    Lands:

    1 Karakas
    2 Vesuva
    1 Bojuka bog
    4 Cloudpost
    4 Glimmerpost
    1 Island
    1 Forest
    1 Cavern of Souls
    4 Topical Island
    4 Misty Rainforest
    1 Glacial Chasm
    1 Eye of Ugin

    Side:
    2 Karn Liberated
    3 Fluster Storm
    2 Swan song
    1 Glen Elandra Archmage
    2 Moment's Peace
    3 Blue Elemental Blast
    1 Engineered Explosives
    1 Krosan Grip


    round 1: Death and taxes
    round 2: Jeskai Acendancy
    round 3: Sneak and show
    round 4: Jeskai Stoneblade
    round 4: Jeskai Stoneblade
    round 5: Jeskai Stoneblade
    round 6: Jeskai Stoneblade
    round 7: UWr Miracle control

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    ^ great job!

    Just want to clarify something. You can cast Primeval titan with two Cloudpost and a Cavern(producing two green) via Candelabra right?

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    Re: [Deck] Turbo Eldrazi

    Yep. Tap cloudposts and cavern for 4G, go to 1G to candelabra, untapping your three lands, then add another 4G going to 5GG and cast primeval titan.
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    Re: [Deck] Turbo Eldrazi

    @Maagler

    Nice Result :)
    i think you would won this Tournament:P You had some nice Match ups ;)

    Some Questions:

    1.Do you play Cavern of Soul in the Slot of Tabernalce or why you dont Play Tabernacle?

    2.How works the Cavern of Soul for you?

    Greets

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    Some interesting lists from the SCG Open. Looking at this list:

    http://sales.starcitygames.com//deck...p?DeckID=78611

    I have to seriously question the inclusion of Platinum Emperion. It turns off fetch lands, renders Glimmerposts useless and kills Glacial Chasm. Am I missing something? I mean, you can grab it with Eye of Ugin, I suppose, but by the time you have the mana to do that, you're rarely in survival mode anymore.

    I guess there are those fringe situations where you've got 2 Cloudposts and a Glimmerpost in play and need to buy yourself a turn but, even in those cases, it seems like Platinum Angel would be better since you'd definitely be able to cast it and it'd still allow you to gain/pay life.

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    Re: [Deck] Turbo Eldrazi

    Quote Originally Posted by Pdingo View Post
    @Maagler

    Nice Result :)
    i think you would won this Tournament:P You had some nice Match ups ;)

    Some Questions:

    1.Do you play Cavern of Soul in the Slot of Tabernalce or why you dont Play Tabernacle?

    2.How works the Cavern of Soul for you?

    Greets
    Cavern was MVP all day in the Jeski match-up. In three matches I got a feeling that they were holding a Force for Titan, so I would sneak an Expedition Map in there to get the Cavern. Turned out that every time they would have the Force in hand at the end of the game.

    I don't like missing the land drop with tabernacle. Thats the main reason I don't run it.

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    Re: [Deck] Turbo Eldrazi

    Quote Originally Posted by AppendixG View Post
    Some interesting lists from the SCG Open. Looking at this list:
    I have to seriously question the inclusion of Platinum Emperion. It turns off fetch lands, renders Glimmerposts useless and kills Glacial Chasm. Am I missing something? I mean, you can grab it with Eye of Ugin, I suppose, but by the time you have the mana to do that, you're rarely in survival mode anymore.
    As a former MUD player, Platinum Emperion makes ANT go...umm...how do I win? They need krosan grip and/or chain of Vapor to win. The key is living long enough to make it happen. It also brick walls burn, assuming they don't have smash to smithereens.

    Quote Originally Posted by Maagler View Post
    Cavern was MVP all day in the Jeski match-up. In three matches I got a feeling that they were holding a Force for Titan, so I would sneak an Expedition Map in there to get the Cavern. Turned out that every time they would have the Force in hand at the end of the game.

    I don't like missing the land drop with tabernacle. Thats the main reason I don't run it.
    Congrats on the 7-0, too bad life had to step in. I can't believe you played against Jeskai stoneblade so many times. In my 9 rounds, I believe I faced 9 different archetypes.
    ANT, Dredge, TES, Burn, U/R Delver, Bant Deathblade, Grixis Control, Miracles, Omintell.

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    Re: [Deck] Turbo Eldrazi

    Quote Originally Posted by AppendixG View Post
    Some interesting lists from the SCG Open. Looking at this list:

    http://sales.starcitygames.com//deck...p?DeckID=78611

    I have to seriously question the inclusion of Platinum Emperion. It turns off fetch lands, renders Glimmerposts useless and kills Glacial Chasm. Am I missing something? I mean, you can grab it with Eye of Ugin, I suppose, but by the time you have the mana to do that, you're rarely in survival mode anymore.

    I guess there are those fringe situations where you've got 2 Cloudposts and a Glimmerpost in play and need to buy yourself a turn but, even in those cases, it seems like Platinum Angel would be better since you'd definitely be able to cast it and it'd still allow you to gain/pay life.
    Just guessing here.

    I've suggested Emperion several times before, and considering who that particular deck belongs to, it lends a lot of credence to the idea that Emperion is viable. The big difference between Emperion and Angel is the ability of other players to get rid of it. Double burn spells is manageable, if inconvenient. You can't even really go on the offensive with it, because now a player just needs something like a Delver with a Lightning Bolt backup to take it out. 8 toughness? Decks without Swords to Plowshares or Liliana of the Veil or Innocent Blood pretty much just have to enter the scoop phase. Artifact hate is a thing, but they were probably bringing that stuff in against you anyway, but you can also bring in countermagic and whatnot to back it up.

    That having been said, I'll let him explain the choice for himself when he comes back :)
    Yes, you probably need Candelabra if you're running a Cloudpost deck.

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    Re: [Deck] Turbo Eldrazi

    Quote Originally Posted by maCHOOga View Post
    As a former MUD player, Platinum Emperion makes ANT go...umm...how do I win? They need krosan grip and/or chain of Vapor to win. The key is living long enough to make it happen. It also brick walls burn, assuming they don't have smash to smithereens.



    Congrats on the 7-0, too bad life had to step in. I can't believe you played against Jeskai stoneblade so many times. In my 9 rounds, I believe I faced 9 different archetypes.
    ANT, Dredge, TES, Burn, U/R Delver, Bant Deathblade, Grixis Control, Miracles, Omintell.
    I actually put it down wrong. One of the Stoneblade matches was a BUG delver. But yeah a lot of good match-ups :P

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    Re: [Deck] Turbo Eldrazi

    Quote Originally Posted by Maagler View Post
    So unfortunately despite having a 7/0 record day 1 at SCG's I had to drop do to an emergency at home. Anyways I though you guys might be interested in a list, It felt very smooth and I had zero issues with the deck dropping only 2 games.


    Creatures:

    4 Primeval Titian
    1 Emrakrul, the Eon's torn
    1 Kozilek, the butcher of Truth

    Spells:

    3 Crop Rotation
    2 Pithing needle
    4 Brainstorm
    4 Repeal
    2 Treasure Cruise
    3 Expedition Map
    3 Force of Will
    1 Oblivion stone
    2 Show and Tell
    2 Candelabra of Tawnos
    3 Sensei’s Divining Top

    Lands:

    1 Karakas
    2 Vesuva
    1 Bojuka bog
    4 Cloudpost
    4 Glimmerpost
    1 Island
    1 Forest
    1 Cavern of Souls
    4 Topical Island
    4 Misty Rainforest
    1 Glacial Chasm
    1 Eye of Ugin

    Side:
    2 Karn Liberated
    3 Fluster Storm
    2 Swan song
    1 Glen Elandra Archmage
    2 Moment's Peace
    3 Blue Elemental Blast
    1 Engineered Explosives
    1 Krosan Grip


    round 1: Death and taxes
    round 2: Jeskai Acendancy
    round 3: Sneak and show
    round 4: Jeskai Stoneblade
    round 4: Jeskai Stoneblade
    round 5: Jeskai Stoneblade
    round 6: Jeskai Stoneblade
    round 7: UWr Miracle control
    List looks really sweet.

    Do you know if you'll be making any changes when Fate Reforged becomes legal (mostly with respect to Ugin)?

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    Re: [Deck] Turbo Eldrazi

    Quote Originally Posted by lordofthepit View Post
    List looks really sweet.

    Do you know if you'll be making any changes when Fate Reforged becomes legal (mostly with respect to Ugin)?
    In that list he would replace the Karn straight up.

    I am planning on testing a list at my local that will be more All-in-Ugin though, which tries to hit the eight mana as quickly as possible and sweeps with Ugin multiple times for the win.

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    Re: [Deck] Turbo Eldrazi

    Can anyone explain how Platinum Emperion interacts with the upkeep cost of Glacial Chasm?

    You can't pay life so you can't pay the cumulative upkeep cost of Glacial Chasm, correct?
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    Correct, platinum emperion is kind of a dick in that regard
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