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    single foreign card only my opponent can see

    HEllo,

    i was reading a nice report topic (http://www.mtgthesource.com/forums/s...d=1#post702863) and saw a strange situation that gives information that shouldn't be known to the owner of a deck:

    let's say i play only one card (or a playset of the same card) in a foreign language like korean / japanese / german, that not so much people can read.
    If your opponent doesn't know the card or wants some information on the exact text of the card when for example fatesealing me with a jace, he got to call a judge...
    As i know there's only one card he can't read, i have information on the card that is on top of my library...

    Could this be considered like cheating or something like that?

    Yes i know this is a very narrow case but anyway, that's just for theorycrafting.

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    Re: single foreign card only my opponent can see

    It's definitely not cheating.

    Players aren't expected to memorize every card art in the game, but it does help
    Seriously though, cards you buy in one place should always be legal in some other place. Making foreign cards be marked cards definitely goes against that philosophy.
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    Re: single foreign card only my opponent can see

    Quote Originally Posted by phazonmuant View Post
    It's definitely not cheating.

    Players aren't expected to memorize every card art in the game, but it does help
    Seriously though, cards you buy in one place should always be legal in some other place. Making foreign cards be marked cards definitely goes against that philosophy.
    I do agree with you that i would suck not to be able to play with foreign cards.
    However, i could intentionnaly put 1 card in foreign in my deck so i get information when my opponent is the only one to see the card and that he needs a translation.

    Very narrow case, but possible.

    Thoughts?

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    Re: single foreign card only my opponent can see

    I see your point here but there are also cases where your opponent just wants an oracle text even if he/she can read the card. This becomes of more relevance the more older cards you have in your deck. I could see this being less of a corner case advantage in modern or standard where your cards are all newer and have the correct oracle text right on them.

    But the only solution I could see is if they made it illegal to play only one foreign card in your deck. But what happens when you side out all but one foreign card? There's really no way to avoid this situation, but if your opponent is fatesealing you it probably won't matter much if you gain info about your bottom card.
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    Re: single foreign card only my opponent can see

    Foreign cards, like all standard Magic cards, are always legal.
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    Re: single foreign card only my opponent can see

    The opponent could call a judge to look up the oracle text of the fatesealed card as a bluff to make you think that it was your only foreign card.

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