Hello,
Can anyone tell me if this us still a viable deck? Im debating between sleeving this or esper deathblade up (i love delver so much though). Also, i saw lists with 2 snapcaster mage. Is this beinh ran today?
For what it's worth, fabiano ran this deck at a 1k I ran last week. He seems to think it's viable. I agree.
Do you have a link to the list? Google doesnt help meOriginally Posted by Mapson
Wasn't posted. I kept the list so I can try to remember to type it up for you when I'm home
Are you home yet?
4 Scalding Tarn
3 Volcanic Island
4 Tundra
4 FLooded Strnd
4 Wasteland
1 Island
1 Umezawa's Jitte
1 Batterskull
1 Elspeth, Knight Errant
3 Swords to Plowshares
4 Lightning Bolt
4 Daze
4 Brainstorm
4 Ponder
1 Spell pierce
4 Force of Will
3 Stoneforge Mystic
4 Delver of Secrets
2 True Name Nemesis
1 Snapcaster Mage
2 Grim Lavamancer
1 Council's Judgment
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1 Supreme Verdict
1 Armageddon
1 Containment priest
2 Rest In Peace
2 Pyroblast
1 Ratchet Bomb
1 FLusterstorm
1 Moat
1 Jace, the Mind Sculptor
3 Meddling Mage
1 Karakas
I like the MD Lavamancers. Any idea on why Elspeth over Gideon? Armageddon seems sweet
I have guesses but can't say for sure
I actually made my own list and its very very close.
-1 elspeth
-1councils judgement
-2 grim lavamancer
-1spell pierce
+1 snapcaster
+1 swords to plowshares
+1 stoneforge mystic
+2 g probe
I havent finalized the list but i played against infect which is big in my meta and it was better than other delver variants
A couple interesting lists I've noted recently
http://www.tcdecks.net/deck.php?id=22230&iddeck=171429
http://www.tcdecks.net/deck.php?id=22335&iddeck=172284
https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/588044#online
Anyone planning on trying out UWR Delver in the new, Miracles-less meta?
Nobody plays Legacy anymore, the tournaments are all too crowded
I was tossing the idea around, but honestly I'm not sure what this deck gets over Stoneblade. Daze and Delver don't seem worth it to me.
It gets good combo matchups whereas Stoneblade's combo matchups range from ok to horrible depending on the version.
Also, 8 1-mana answers to DRS seems pretty good in a field where the 1-mana planeswalker is likely to be in an even larger number of decks than it is now. Not that Stoneblade couldn't play 4 StP and 4 Bolt as well, but I imagine most Stoneblade lists people end up going with will be either Esper or 4c Deathblade.
Nobody plays Legacy anymore, the tournaments are all too crowded
Yeah, I think this deck might have some legs in the format now. Miracles always felt unwinnable, but with that out of the way I think the deck has the tools to compete against a lot of the field.
I ran what I'd call a pretty stock list at my local shop a couple weeks ago. Beat ANT, beat TES, lost to a top decked Craterhoof vs Elves, beat D&T. Seems like it probably wouldn't fare well vs the Leovold decks though.
Why woudn't this do good vs Leovold? Only reason to run UWR Delver right now, for me, is if you run something like x2 Pyroblast in the main, and at that point probably up your Snapcaster Mage count to two, thought one still seems fine.. The deck has enough removal to keep DRS in check and let you cast Snapcaster Mages in relative peace, and having access to Snapcaster+REB seems OP.
Also, Pyroclasm effects seem very, very nice against a meta full of Elves.
I sleeved up this deck again after a long period of not playing it, since the last MN legacy open (treasure cruise era).
I played a very similar list just added a probe and 2 snaps in place of treasure cruise and took it to my local shop. I went 3-0 and drew 4th round for top 4 prize split.
The deck has play but I feel with the speed of the meta atm stoneforge was too slow. Stoneforge really never stuck around or games never lasted long enough for me to get the stoneforge engine going.
My games were won primarily off delver tempo plan and then meddling mages/probe combo is mvp against combo 2nd-3rd games.
my match ups were
G1 - Sneakattack Stompy 2-0
G2 - Grixis Delver 2-1
G3 - Sneak Attack 2-1
G4 - Storm 1-2 but we ID.
The deck drew well overall, the deck can switch between control or aggro pretty easily but I think I'm going to stick to a more delver tempo oriented deck next time I play. Stoneforge was just too slow and clunky at times for the deck and didn't do anything throughout my games. I think if the meta switches to a more creature grindy meta this deck will be a better choice.
I went to an LGS Legacy event (27 people) with this deck and got 3rd place.
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/149496527
Link to my feature match in the semi finals. Match starts at 5:22:00
*Bonus* If you like 93/94 some of my friends played some games on camera in between rounds.
Some things to clarify some of the confusion regarding the match.
1) I got batterskull because my hand was double force, double blue card and a brainstorm. my plan from opening hand was to force whatever he used to try and kill my stoneforge mystic until batterskull hit the table, but he drew the 1 of Abrupt Decay in his list.
2) Subsequent force of wills pitched 2 snapcaster mages.
3) When I Spell Pierced the Brainstorm there were zero lands in the GY that's why my opponent didn't pay.
4) I didn't try to Spell Pierce my own Daze. I was trying to "get" my opponent by hoping he wouldn't pay for the daze and when he tapped the Deathrite I accidentally put the Spell Pierce on the table as if he was casting a spell...oops
5) My ponder was Flooded Strand, Tundra, Delver. I kept these 3 cards on top because it had a threat which my opening hand currently had none but was very good otherwise. I took the land, cast delver the next turn, and fetched away the land I knew was on top prior to the Delver trigger to get a fresh look but drew Tundra =/
The deck felt very good. There wasn't a matchup all day I felt like I couldn't beat. The round I did lose in the Swiss came from a play mistake. Same with some individual games. I beat Death and Taxes, Grixis Delver, Grixis Control, ANT, and lost to Grixis Delver. In the quarterfinals I beat RUG Delver. And in the semi finals I lost to the deck on camera. I would certainly play this deck again. Here is the list I played:
// Deck: UWR Delver (60)
// Lands
1 Arid Mesa
4 Flooded Strand
4 Polluted Delta
1 Snow-Covered Island
1 Snow-Covered Plains
3 Tundra
3 Volcanic Island
3 Wasteland
// Creatures
4 Delver of Secrets
2 Snapcaster Mage
4 Stoneforge Mystic
3 True-Name Nemesis
// Spells
1 Batterskull
4 Brainstorm
3 Daze
4 Force of Will
4 Lightning Bolt
4 Ponder
3 Spell Pierce
3 Swords to Plowshares
1 Umezawa's Jitte
// Sideboard
SB: 1 Containment Priest
SB: 1 Engineered Explosives
SB: 1 Ethersworn Canonist
SB: 2 Flusterstorm
SB: 1 Izzet Staticaster
SB: 2 Pyroblast
SB: 1 Sulfur Elemental
SB: 2 Surgical Extraction
SB: 1 Sword of Fire and Ice
SB: 2 Vendilion Clique
SB: 1 Wear // Tear (Wear)
This was an exact copy (Except for the Snow Lands) of a list from a player named Yamaguchi Minami.
Looking forward to my next Legacy event this weekend where I'll be playing for a Mox. Here is the updated list I plan on bringing to this event.
// Deck: UWR Delver (60)
// Lands
4 Flooded Strand
4 Polluted Delta
1 Snow-Covered Island
1 Snow-Covered Plains
3 Tundra
3 Volcanic Island
4 Wasteland
// Creatures
4 Delver of Secrets
4 Stoneforge Mystic
3 True-Name Nemesis
1 Grim Lavamancer
// Spells
1 Batterskull
4 Brainstorm
3 Daze
4 Force of Will
4 Lightning Bolt
4 Ponder
3 Spell Pierce
4 Swords to Plowshares
1 Umezawa's Jitte
// Sideboard
SB: 1 Containment Priest
SB: 1 Council's Judgment
SB: 2 Ethersworn Canonist
SB: 2 Flusterstorm
SB: 1 Izzet Staticaster
SB: 2 Pyroblast
SB: 2 Rest in Peace
SB: 1 Sword of Fire and Ice
SB: 1 Vendilion Clique
SB: 2 Wear // Tear
I like the Grim in there too.
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