From the Vaults: Twenty

[Chikenbok]

The product was just announced on Pro Tour Gatecrash by Hill and Sutcliffe, and it was made to celebrate the twenty years of MtG.

Known facts:
- This product is packed with 20 cards instead of the traditional 15 cards from previous From the Vaults;
- The product is also going to feature a card from a winning deck from each year of Magic existence.

Release date: August 23, 2013
MSRP: $39,99
Product concept and develop team: Gavin Verhey and Jeremy Jarvis
Twitter Hashtag: #ftv20

All info taken from mtgsalvation, but it seems to be spreading (info wise) like wildfire -- 20 cards a pop, people claiming MoR to be confirmed.

Wonder how bad they can make this one...

[Julian23]

Mother of Runes? Now that's...unexciting. Mouth of Ronom anyone?

[WorstBandNameEver]

They are saying mom because of the art spoiled. Does not look like mom tomme at all.

[Barook]

- The product is also going to feature a card from a winning deck from each year of Magic existence.

That's pretty vague. Winning what? Worlds? Pro Tours?

[Chikenbok]

That's pretty vague. Winning what? Worlds? Pro Tours?

I believe they're referring to Worlds.

[Barook]

I believe they're referring to Worlds.

They could print 19 horrible cards and jam in a Jace, the Mind Sculptor and it would still sell like hotcakes.

I do expect lots of horrible stuff, though.

[Lemnear]

My bets 4 Reprints:

1994 Championship Deck:
-Swords to Plowshares (already FNM & Judge )
-Serra Angel (already Judge)
-Meekstone
-Stasis

1995 Championship Deck:
-Hymn to Tourarch
-Dark Ritual (already judge)
-Mind Twist (strong bet!)

1996 Championship Deck:
-Disenchant (already FNM)

1997 Championship Deck:
-Black Knight (already FNM)
-Incinerate

1998 Championship Deck:
-Recurring Nightmare (Top bet!)
-Survival of the Fittest (already Judge)

1999 Championship Deck:
-Temporal Aperture
-Cursed Scroll
-Grim Monolith

2000 Championship Deck:
-Tangle Wire
-Tinker (already FtV)
-Brainstorm (alread FNM)

2001 Championship Deck:
-Duress (already FNM)
-Dark Ritual (already Judge)
-Terminate

2002 Championship Deck:
-Counterspell (already FNM & Judge)
-Chainers Edict
-Psychatog (already FNM)
-Cunning Wish (already Judge)

2003 Championship Deck:
-Wrath of God (Players reward)
-Decree of Justice (already Judge)

2004 Championship Deck:
-Eternal Dragon (already Judge)
-Eternal Whitness (already FNM)
-Akromas Vengeance

2005 Championship Deck:
-Jitte (pro Tour)
-Yosei
-Kodama of the North Tree

2006 Championship Deck:
-Dragonstorm (FtV)

2007 Championship Deck:
-Thoughtseize
-Doran (FtV & textboxless)
-Tarmogoyf (Modern Masters Flagship)

2008 Championship Deck:
-Bitterblossom ( Judge)
-Cryptic Command (Judge)
-Mutavault (States promo)
-Thoughtseize

2009 Championship Deck:
-Noble Hierarch (Judge)
-Baneslayer Angel
-Ranger of Eos

2010 Championship Deck:
-Inquisition of Kozilek
-Jace TMS
-Grave Titan (Game)

2011 Championship Deck:
-Green Sun's Zenith
-Primeval Titan (gp)
-Inferno Titan
-Kessig Wolf Run



Just picked the MVP's Out of every years Deck which may Need a Reprint for the pricetag or because they Never saw a Promo

Edit: sure WotC can mess up the term with the championship and just Reprint 20 icons Out of 20 years that were in Decks that won a pro Tour, gp, worlds etc. and come up with Lots of crap. Pick your own: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic...ship#section_5

[Megadeus]

Dragonstorm already was in a FTV

[DLifshitz]

Wonder how bad they can make this one...

They could make it pretty good if they choose cards that are still playable today. At least by definition it's a product with tournament-quality cards. However, in June Modern Masters is coming out, and I expect this is where the Modern-era money cards will be.

By the way, it's another case of stuff getting reprinted in a short-run all-foil product. I wish they would take the hint from the success of RtR and reprint more cards in widely available sets, and not just as foils.

[Aggro_zombies]

Not to mention, Brainstorm, StP, Dark Ritual, Disenchant, Incinerate, Duress, Psychatog, Counterspell, Eternal Witness, and Cryptic Command all have promos of various stripes: FNM, Arena, textless foil, and so on.

Mutavault also has a promo but those are extremely rare, so I could see them doing that again.

However, the most recent cards complicate things because I imagine they'll want to avoid overlap with Modern Masters.

Also, I agree that the spoiled art does not look very Mother of Runes-y.

[Stoyrm]

Doesn't necessarily have to be worlds i assume, but PTs are fair to assume. If so; Wasteland, Force of Will, Rishadan Port. Oh god yes!


Still going to suck though, cause they are not going to print something actually good.

[Lemnear]

Mother of Runes was never in a World champion's Deck afaik. Dunno if Force of Will ever was Out of my head.

Not to mention, Brainstorm, StP, Dark Ritual, Disenchant, Incinerate, Duress, Psychatog, Counterspell, Eternal Witness, and Cryptic Command all have promos of various stripes: FNM, Arena, textless foil, and so on.

I agree, but most of the other cards are on the reserved List or drastically outdated

[Barook]

I agree, but most of the other cards are on the reserved List or drastically outdated

Outdated? That didn't hinder Wizards to put Desert into FTV: Realms.

I expect one money card, some okay value cards and the rest to be janky, "iconic" cards.

[Aggro_zombies]

Mother of Runes was never in a World champion's Deck afaik. Dunno if Force of Will ever was Out of my head.

I agree, but most of the other cards are on the reserved List or drastically outdated

Force and at least one other good card probably pays for the rest of the stuff they put in there. It would also give people the promo Force of Will they've been whining about wanting for years.

My assumption is they'll aim for iconic decks rather than limiting it to just World Champs decks. We could see stuff like Fires of Yavimaya, Circular Logic, Piledriver, Lin Sivvi, something from Pros Bloom, and so on. Force, Port, and Wasteland all represent money cards they could print that would make the set worth it, never mind the stuff in Modern with currently ridiculous price tags (Thoughtseize, I'm looking at you).

Desert was in FtV: Lands despite already having an FNM promo and being essentially a worthless card, so there is a small possibility they'd reprint a card in both Modern Masters and FtV: 20. It probably won't be something as splashy as Tarmogoyf, but who knows. This FtV can't be any worse than the Legends one.

[SaberTooth]

dark ritual foil textless plz

and 10 duals, and fow, and wasteland

[Esper3k]

The picture that was spoiled looked like it could be Psionic Blast to me.

[Barook]

If it was really a Mom, the blue energy balls in her hand would be the 5 colors of magic.

No idea what the card could be. Looks rather blue, though. Mystical Tutor, maybe?

[kicks_422]

She looks like Umbra Mystic to me, though I don't know which winning deck that came from.

[Lemnear]

The picture that was spoiled looked like it could be Psionic Blast to me.

Now that's a smart guess! No Chance the promo art is for FoW or mystical tutor. The aged woman fits for Mom which is possible but already saw a Reprint as FNM promo

[Koby]

I'd say there's a strong chance it's Mystical Tutor based on the blue color motifs (including the skull in bookcase = knowledge archetype), but since it's been printed in a FTV set already, I'm kind of stumped. Maybe Vampiric? Brainstorm?