[Deck] Imperial Painter

[sroncor1]

Whoops, just an oversight 2 SDT are still in the deck. Sorry.

Seth

[Mapson]

Whoa whoa whoa. When did we get off the divining top train. This has been a staple of the deck since inception.

At face value we are trading options for threats (e.g. planeswalkers). However if I wanted to have threats and no options I would play MUD. Please elaborate seth.

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If you count his list its missing two cards, presumably they are tops

[drude1]

So it's official... Both the red and white new transformational planeswalkers are completely unplayable. Disappointing.

[Uroborian]

They're playable. Just not in this deck, just not in legacy.

[sroncor1]

I agree, I have doubts that Chandra is playable, but she is worth testing. A tutorable 3 mana planeswalker still bears testing as the potential is there. The difference between 3 and 4 mana is huge. Just not sure the hoops you need to jump through make it worthwhile. Although I will say, her flipped version is nice.

seth

[Uroborian]

Forgot to ask is anyone planning on going to the premier IQ in Indianapolis on sunday? i think its about time a painter does well again (which should be every tournament)

[UnsungHero]

Forgot to ask is anyone planning on going to the premier IQ in Indianapolis on sunday? i think its about time a painter does well again (which should be every tournament)

I wanted to. But am probably not going to be. I may be going to SCG Chicago next month however and playing in the Sunday event.

[SirPsychoMantis]

Another tutorable target:



Probably still not good enough, but interesting.

[Kap'n Cook]

I like this dude. Art blows but whatever most new stuff sucks. The synergy this guy has with our entire deck is off the charts. Recruitable, double welder fodder, chumpblockers, flyers to block delver, harass walkers, removal, direct damage, junk artifact recycling, favorable stompy mana cost.

I'll for sure try testing one out, probably board.

[Finn]

The double red might be rough.

[Admiral_Arzar]

The double red might be rough.

Seriously brah? We're playing Moon.dec, red mana is the least of our concerns.

[Kap'n Cook]

The double red might be rough.

Were already running jaya and koths. It's not a problem

[RingoDeathStarr]

I agree, this cheesy couple might be a great way to buy time against a number of aggro strategies.

[drude1]

Ooh yeah, I'll be swinging with this couple. I really like the look of them. Don't get me wrong, I'm not married to them yet, but I do like what they are putting out.


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[Manroe]

So is there a real reason why this deck has fallen off of the wagon as of late?

[Hopo]

So is there a real reason why this deck has fallen off of the wagon as of late?

Omnitell and Miracles are not among the decks best matchups.

[sroncor1]

I actually think Miracles is a positive match up to be honest. I've been messing with my Painter list a bunch over he past month but it def feels like a match up that is closer to 60 percent in your favor. I think a bunch of people's struggles are two fold. They have misbuilt the deck and/or sideboard so as to not be able to gain a strategic advantage games 2-3. The other issue is that I still feel most pilots of he deck do not prioritize lines of attack and play sequences properly bc they make the mistake of what is important in any match up.

In my eyes he favorable match ups are:
Miracles
bug
Dredge
Rwu
Tendrils
Elves
Lands
Blade variants

50/50
Mono blue Omnitel

Bad
Burn
Ur delver
Sneak and show
Ru Omnitel

Seth

[Admiral_Arzar]

So is there a real reason why this deck has fallen off of the wagon as of late?

I used to play this deck a ton, and it's probably still my favorite "real" deck (most of the other stuff I play nowadays is pretty fringe in comparison). I had to stop playing it during the Treasure Cruise era as the UR Delver matchup was stone-cold unwinnable. After the banning of Treasure Cruise and the upswing of Dig Through Time, we have a meta dominated by Miracles (never was a great matchup due to Moon resistance, Counterbalance, etc.) and Omnitell (I've never played this matchup, but considering this deck is a more powerful High Tide that happens to have maindeck Emrakul, it should be legit awful. I never lost a match to Painter in my High Tide days.) Until the meta shifts to a more midrange/Delver focused meta, I don't think this deck will be well-positioned. If Dig Through Time gets the banhammer - as I believe it will - then this deck will have a chance to shine again.

[Bonk]

@sroncor1

Hi,

I don’t understand how the miracle MU could be a good MU… Sroncor, give your secret. Perhaps your list is different.

During my last tournament (5 rounds), I played 3 miracles and a Omnishow – a bad luck day – and it was really hard against Miracle.
My list is nearly the same as Kaps’s one.

My side against miracle is +1 Vexing susher, +1 Duergar, +2 Koth.

What’s your stategy plan to beat this deck ? What’s your sideboarding plan ?

I chose to play now an Explosives, to give me more chance to break counterbalance

[Moomba]

Yeah I defiantly agree with Seth that miracles is definitely a positive match up, at least from my experiences too. I would say I have at least a 70% win rate against it. Though I highly disagree with the 50/50 with Omni Tell, that match up is horrid, I would rather play Sneak and Show any day of the week over omni.