[Primer/Deck] Belcher

[cdnza]

Yea you can go down to 3 Chrome Mox for sure if you aren't planning on playing swarms/carpet sideboard. Only problem I see with chancellor is that it doesn't add storm. Sometimes spirit guide hands + empty the warrens are problematic. Chancellor will make those hands more common since he's essentially spirit guides #9-12.

Probe comes out after sideboard anyways. I also hope you're playing Pyretic Ritual instead of manamorphose!

I've been doing well in my postboard games with my 4 carpet 4 swarm 1 forest sideboard. But I'll be looking forward to your results! :)

What do you board out for the green board? I assumed the Probes and any Manamorphose you have (my list has one right now). Thinking about playing this deck for the first time at a small tournament on Sunday so am eager to learn from those with experience! Though if I show up and it looks like >50% blue decks I might just play ANT or TES instead...

[Blastoderm]

What do you board out for the green board? I assumed the Probes and any Manamorphose you have (my list has one right now). Thinking about playing this deck for the first time at a small tournament on Sunday so am eager to learn from those with experience! Though if I show up and it looks like >50% blue decks I might just play ANT or TES instead...

I play 0 manamorphose, 4 pyretic ritual.

I side out 4 probe, 4 seething song, 1 pyretic ritual for 4 swarm 4 carpet 1 forest

[cdnza]

OK dudes, today is the day of the first sanctioned Legacy tourney round here since I built this deck so I'm hoping to play it in a few hours. If the room looks to be full of blue decks I will probably switch to ANT or TES though. I think I'm going to try out the green board too.

My list is:
4 Pyretic Ritual
1 Manamorphose
3 Chrome Mox

SB:
1 Forest
4 Carpet of Flowers
4 Xantid Swarm
1 Empty the Warrens
1 Pyroclasm
1 Reverent Silence
1 Telemin Performance
1 Meltdown
1 ??????

[Blastoderm]

OK dudes, today is the day of the first sanctioned Legacy tourney round here since I built this deck so I'm hoping to play it in a few hours. If the room looks to be full of blue decks I will probably switch to ANT or TES though. I think I'm going to try out the green board too.

My list is:
4 Pyretic Ritual
1 Manamorphose
3 Chrome Mox

SB:
1 Forest
4 Carpet of Flowers
4 Xantid Swarm
1 Empty the Warrens
1 Pyroclasm
1 Reverent Silence
1 Telemin Performance
1 Meltdown
1 ??????

I think you want the 4th chrome mox for the green board. You should definitely play an Infernal Tutor in the board. I win 50%+ of my games with it g2 and g3. Maybe a Goblin Warstrike instead of pyroclasm? What do you plan on killing with it? Gaddock Teeg? To kill Thalia you'll need 6 mana. Maybe a flame slash instead? Instead of meltdown what about shattering spree? Costs 1 to kill cannonist, needle instead of 2-3.

[astormbrewing]

Haven't played this deck for over a year, but I'm going to rebuild it.

3 Burning Wish
3 Chrome Mox
4 Desperate Ritual
4 Elvish Spirit Guide
3 Empty the Warrens
4 Gitaxian Probe
4 Goblin Charbelcher
4 Land Grant
4 Lion's Eye Diamond
4 Lotus Petal
2 Manamorphose
4 Pyretic Ritual
4 Rite of Flame
4 Seething Song
4 Simian Spirit Guide
1 Taiga
4 Tinder Wall

1 Cave-In
1 Empty the Warrens
1 Flame Slash
1 Goblin War Strike
1 Infernal Tutor
4 Pyroblast
1 Reverent Silence
1 Shattering Spree
4 Xantid Swarm

[zzregz]

Is it ok if i have no LED and stomping ground instead of taiga. I wanna play belcher on a budget...

[Pomegrant]

Is it ok if i have no LED and stomping ground instead of taiga. I wanna play belcher on a budget...

Stomping Ground doesn't matter.

The deck is not playable without LED.

[zzregz]

Stomping Ground doesn't matter.

The deck is not playable without LED.

Then why did sonny aparicio got to top 8 if its not playable without LED?


Check this:
http://mtgdecks.net/decks/view/77636

[wonderPreaux]

Then why did sonny aparicio got to top 8 if its not playable without LED?


Check this:
http://mtgdecks.net/decks/view/77636

Because it isn't impossible to win with a suboptimal deck, just less likely. Favorable variance doesn't excuse poor deck construction.
Is it possible to win with an ANT deck that has 0 Dark Ritual? sure. Is it is a good plan? no.

[Blastoderm]

So Belcher is 9-0 at GP Kyoto :)

[feline]

So Belcher is 9-0 at GP Kyoto :)

@#$%(P YES!!!!!! GO BELCHER!!!!! (Sorry this is one of my favorite decks, I love how crazy it is and how it can piss people off)

[chainedcurses]

So Belcher is 9-0 at GP Kyoto :)

Infinite Hype Train!!!! Who was it and how did this person finish?

[Tokugawa]

Infinite Hype Train!!!! Who was it and how did this person finish?

Shirakihara Ryuichi, finish at 49th with 11-4.

http://magic.wizards.com/en/events/c...sts-2015-04-18

[Blastoderm]

Shirakihara Ryuichi, finish at 49th with 11-4.

http://magic.wizards.com/en/events/c...sts-2015-04-18

Interesting list. Not a fan of +1 street wraith -1 Land Grand though.... also was never a fan of manamorphose but I see he at least puts it to good use in order to cast a discard spell after board.

[Ellomdian]

Shirakihara Ryuichi, finish at 49th with 11-4.

http://magic.wizards.com/en/events/c...sts-2015-04-18

Congrats on this guy's accomplishment, but man, 9-0, 2-4. Woo hoo variance curve snapping back around :(

[chainedcurses]

Well majority of day 2 was Delver decks. Probably has something to do with the x-4 on day 2. A belcher deck going 9-0 doesn't fail to be recognized


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[paeng4983]

Well majority of day 2 was Delver decks. Probably has something to do with the x-4 on day 2. A belcher deck going 9-0 doesn't fail to be recognized


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Truely, the element of surprise is with the belcher's side during day one. But on day two, he is already marked. but still, good job in bringing this to day two man!

[Jin Gitaxias]

I'm considering to pick this deck up, just because it's something else then the decks i usually play.
Is there a reason that noone plays the recross the paths version anymore?
Is there a consensus over the best main deck?

Thanks in advance.

[JPoJohnson]

1. The raw speed of belcher is definitely the reason to play it. Recross the paths is cheaper, but slower and still has the same weaknesses as 1-land belcher. Imo there isn't a strength that justify it over 1land Belcher.

2.
Joe Losset's thoughts on belcher:

http://blog.mtgdeals.com/oarsman/reb...y-charbelcher/

[Rokkastut]

Hello,

1. Pyroclasm or Cave-In?

2. 3/1 split MD/SB or 4 MD Land Grant?

I try to read up on belcher but these two I am not sure about.

Also:

3. Has Carpet of Flowers 'replaced' Pyroblast in this build?