Yeah, those are sexy. So far Jumpstart has been a pretty fun product to watch.
Brainstorm Realist
I close my eyes and sink within myself, relive the gift of precious memories, in need of a fix called innocence. - Chuck Shuldiner
https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/2218439
Having Waker of the Dead in the list made it illegal... lol... I'll add her after release. I'll find room for Eliminate too. Had to do some awkward juggling, like cutting Dark Rituals down. Planeswalking Pox?
Three Lilianas to rule them all. One Pox to find them. Smallpox to bring them all and in the Sinkhole bind them!
what's the over and under on the amount of snow swamps you'd need to run Dead of Winter?
i'm for starting a petition to errata the winter mishra's factory as a snow permanent.
also, can i get a pox discord invite?
Part of the value of playing DOW in Snow control decks is that it doesn't kill your own Strixes and 3/3 Astrolabes (and you also have your own astrolabes to increase snow count).
Without these upsides and with the relatively high likelihood of not having enough snow permanents to reliably kill the things you want in a reasonable timeframe it's probably going to be worse than Toxic Deluge most of the time.
Three Lilianas to rule them all. One Pox to find them. Smallpox to bring them all and in the Sinkhole bind them!
I would also look at Scrying Sheets and Dark Depths as strategies of you want to go the snow route. Scrying Sheets can help you find the snow man-lands and potentially other tech. Dark Depths is fairly well established as a strategy in fringe variants of Pox.
If you want more snow swamps to feed Dead of Winter you can cut the factories altogether and try an alternative win condition like Leyline/Helm.
Brainstorm Realist
I close my eyes and sink within myself, relive the gift of precious memories, in need of a fix called innocence. - Chuck Shuldiner
https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/2218439
Unfortunately, the full Planeswalker Pox design fails to disrupt quickly enough and ultimately resetting to an older design that disrupts strong and fast and then nails in the coffin with a Nether Void while also going the transformational sideboard into Oops-I-win Helm of the Void combo... The Waker of the dead is amazing behind a bridge and the triple Cursed Scroll design is very dangerous in the Delver meta. This is for my MTGO design as I don't own a Paper Tabernacle and run 4 Urborgs instead. I also have 3 Chains of Mephistopheles instead of 3 Underworld Dreams because of limited budget for Paper Pox Legends. I do own a single Nether Void from back in the day ^_^. Waker of the dead is also an excellent nuker for melting really big targets late game like a stalled Dark Depths or a late Show & Telled Emrakul. Eliminate replaced Innocent Blood and has proven excellent compared to my old sideboarded Murderous Riders and The Elderspell. I wished they had printed it sooner...
Three Lilianas to rule them all. One Pox to find them. Smallpox to bring them all and in the Sinkhole bind them!
poxish list: https://magic.wizards.com/en/article...nge-2020-06-01
mutavault interaction as a vampire with sorin is pretty hot
3 Liliana of the Veil
4 Sorin, Imperious Bloodlord
1 Ascendant Evincar
3 Asylum Visitor
4 Bloodghast
4 Gatekeeper of Malakir
2 Vampire Nocturnus
2 Inquisition of Kozilek
2 Smallpox
4 Thoughtseize
4 Dark Ritual
3 Liliana's Triumph
1 Blast Zone
1 Castle Locthwain
3 Mutavault
3 Polluted Delta
9 Swamp
3 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
4 Wasteland
1 Ascendant Evincar
2 Force of Despair
2 Hatred
4 Leyline of the Void
1 Lost Legacy
2 Null Rod
2 The Elderspell
1 Toxic Deluge
Not really a fan of the heavy creature approach, but now that Eliminate is my favorite removal in place of Innocent Blood, the heavy agro approach could work. The sideboard definitely has inspiration. My only mod would be to remove the giant mana priced vampires and squeeze in 2 more smallpox.
Three Lilianas to rule them all. One Pox to find them. Smallpox to bring them all and in the Sinkhole bind them!
If anyone is interested, there is a lot of love going around for Pox in the Leaving a Legacy facebook group and a recent episode of Leaving a Legacy did a historic overview of the deck. Definitely worth checking out.
Brainstorm Realist
I close my eyes and sink within myself, relive the gift of precious memories, in need of a fix called innocence. - Chuck Shuldiner
I think i saw that was going to be a 4 part series on pox, so could be some good stuff there. I tried listening to it but my phone kept locking up while listening to it. it was through the website as opposed to an app so not sure if it was the site or my phone or a mix of both. Anyway i look forward to trying it again sometime.
Also, some of the memes are pretty good too.
The 4part series comment was a joke...its just one episode. I use google play for my podcasts, works great.
Brainstorm Realist
I close my eyes and sink within myself, relive the gift of precious memories, in need of a fix called innocence. - Chuck Shuldiner
This is my test version for Lantern Pox. I was ultimately unhappy with the GB version, it didn't have enough gas against non-Delver decks. I was also thinking that the best GB deck in the format has to be Turbo Depths, which is another favorite deck of mine. So I dropped it in favor of this test of mono-black Pox.
4x Lantern of Insight
4x Codex Shredder
2x Ghoulcaller’s Bell
3x Cursed Scroll
2x Pithing Needle
4x Ensnaring Bridge
3x Mox Opal
4x Thoughtseize
4x Smallpox
2x Ashiok, Dream Render
2x Surgical Extraction
2x Collective Brutality
1x Toxic Deluge
3x Wasteland
1x Buried Ruin
4x Mishra’s Factory
3x Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
1x Castle Locthwain
4x Vault of Whispers
7x Swamp
Sideboard
1x Crucible of Worlds
1x Grafdigger’s Cage
2x Bitterblossom
3x Ratchet Bomb
1x Liliana, the Last Hope
3x Hymn to Tourach
2x Liliana’s Triumph
2x OPEN
Suggestions are welcome. I traded away my Lily of the Veils, so I don't have them available. She isn't super great in the format anyways right now, and I needed somewhere to cut to fit in the Bridges/Lanterns/etc. Not sure about Ashiok as much anymore, not with Smallpox already pressuring their lands. It's another mill effect with an additional angle of attack, but at 3 mana without Rituals it seems a little iffy.
Last edited by Mr. Safety; 08-11-2020 at 11:15 AM.
Brainstorm Realist
I close my eyes and sink within myself, relive the gift of precious memories, in need of a fix called innocence. - Chuck Shuldiner
Three Lilianas to rule them all. One Pox to find them. Smallpox to bring them all and in the Sinkhole bind them!
They are functionally the same as Diabolic Edict with a tiny percentage chance of triggering a discard with the single LastHope.
Sideboard would be for matchups where Bridge isn't good: slower matchups like 4C control, Miracles, grindy decks where Bridge is dead. In comes Hymn to Tourach, Bitterblossom, Liliana Last Hope. Out goes Bridge, Deluge, some number of other matchup-dependant cards.
I would love to have something like Darkblast or Innocent Blood in the maindeck, but I don't know where to trim. The Lantern package takes up quite a bit of room.
EDIT: I realize now that I had Liliana's Triumph listed twice in the sideboard, so that opens up 2 slots for other options. Most likely will be Plague Engineer.
Brainstorm Realist
I close my eyes and sink within myself, relive the gift of precious memories, in need of a fix called innocence. - Chuck Shuldiner
With Mox Opals and perhaps other non-land mana, you could consider Tanglewire. The 2 Ashioks could be swapped. Charcoal Diamond? It'd be a ramping deck. Cursed Scroll with Bridge would be good synergy. Just aim at opponent's head for safe damage. Plague Engineers in an Ensnaring Bridge deck without Dark Rituals feels weird.
Three Lilianas to rule them all. One Pox to find them. Smallpox to bring them all and in the Sinkhole bind them!
While Plague Engineer might not have perfect synergy with Bridge, it's still likely the best option. The fact that it has deathtouch will help it immensely in combat. If it kills 1-2 creatures, keeps opponents from attacking, or blocks and kills something bigger than itself it has done it's job. I can always draw my 2nd card, attack, then play it post-combat to enable bridge to prevent attackers of 2 power or more. With the rising popularity/prominence of Goblins and Elves, I definitely want something that deals with tribal decks. Bridge and Deluge maindeck, then Engineer sideboard seems like a very good plan.
I don't think Tanglewire is supportable. It does slow the game down, but so does Smallpox. I don't want to tap out my mana on my turn, I want to continue applying lock pieces and playing out my cards to enable Bridge. That's the beauty of the Lantern + Bridge plan: you just play your cards out, manipulate your own top-decks, and lock your opponent out. Card advantage at that point doesn't really matter if opponent's can't get past Bridge. Once Bridge locks up combat, you deny them their outs to Bridge with Lantern. Then it's academic, just draw into a Cursed Scroll and start pinging for 2.
I'm surprised you brought up Plague Engineer for a Bridge deck but didn't bring up the fact that I have a full set of Mishra's Factory in the maindeck? Factory gets really bad with Bridge, but it still provides blockers and threats when I don't draw bridge or when Bridge isn't good. I might cut to 3 Factories so I can get a Castle Locthwain in there.
Cutting Dark Ritual is a calculated test: it doesn't offer much past the first few turns, opens the deck up to blowouts, and isn't as good as Mox Opal if you can turn Opal on. Opal is like a land that is immune to Smallpox sacrifices. Pox has enough cards that are symmetrical in effect, so if opponents can counter the spell you play off Ritual you 2-for-1-ed yourself. I think in a broad sense this is why Pox can't gain a foothold in the format. Ritual is a necessary evil in most lists to keep up with the power level of the format, getting 3-mana plays early, but it sets you up with a 'combo' that doesn't win on the spot, and sometimes can be simply played out.
Brainstorm Realist
I close my eyes and sink within myself, relive the gift of precious memories, in need of a fix called innocence. - Chuck Shuldiner
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