In response to your opposite attacking, you manifest Bane of the Living for free, then flip it for whatever, 3 Mana, 4 Mana etc. Seems pretty good to me. And I stated my post after play testing. You can argue the points, but I am speaking from experience, Jace bouncing creatues to hand is a lot less attractive when you could be bouncing a pw kill spell you didn't think you needed earlier, or a smallpox, etc.
Mire in misery (Commander 2019)
cc : 1B
Sorcery
Each opponent sacrifice a creature or enchantment.
The effect is unique enough for black (Maro hinted other similar ones might come later) so it is worth considering it. Opponent can choose so most of the time it will be a bad card but if it has a potential somewhere for dealing with enchantments it is in POX shell.
Well C19 comes out this Friday, so they aren't released yet. Probably that.
Doing some testing with Scroll of Fate, hasn't been as impactful as I'd have liked it to be, at least not as a 4-of.
Comes across like Crucible of Worlds, when it sticks and is good in the game, like enabling a Waste-lock or allowing advantageous combats recurring Factories, then it;s the best card ever.
Other times it just sort of sits there, while we wilt away against better draws and better threats.
Yes in multiples you can just Manifest the other, but in too many games I would need something immediate, an answer to SFM or Dreadhorde Arcanist about to take over the game for example.
So when I draw 1 Scroll of Fate then see another, seems in many cases any of the 3-ofs in the list that could be 4-ofs would have been better served there.
I'm going to trim back to 2 copies and continue games to see what the balance should be.
And that's why we do fun-ofs. I'm fine with just one Crucible, one Nether Void, 1 MD Liliana, the Last Hope. The inherent weakness of Scroll of Fate in Pox, much like any other card choice, is that it doesn't follow the 3 commandments: deals damage, provides mana, disrupt the opponent. Crucible does all of the above depending on your utility lands - Mishra's Factory, Urborg, Cabal Pit come to mind. The killer land at this point would be EtB tapped & target player discards a card. I'd only run 1 Scroll of Fate. But doesn't it synergize with Cursed Scroll? No blockers = 4 damage for 3 cmc.
Three Lilianas to rule them all. One Pox to find them. Smallpox to bring them all and in the Sinkhole bind them!
I don't think pox runs Never//Return anymore, but just in case someone does we have a new-ish version of it:
Text:
Adventure: Swift End, instant - 1BB
Destroy target creature or PW, you lose 2 life.
Creature part:
Murderous rider - 1BB - 2/3 Lifelink. When it dies,t put it on the bottom of your library.
I don't know that this is enough to help with late game attrition, but letting it sit in exile, untouchable, might be useful in certain builds. Likely for the mono-black crowd if i had to guess.
If nothing else, I think the promo art looks cool!
Three Lilianas to rule them all. One Pox to find them. Smallpox to bring them all and in the Sinkhole bind them!
Its probably a puny 1/1, but bloodghast builds might be interested (pre-grave hate sideboarding at least).
Ayara, First of Lockthwain. BBB. Elf Noble.
Whenever ~ or another black creature ETB under your control, each opponent loses 1 life and you gain 1 life.
T, sac another black creature - draw a card.
Manaless dredge might be interested in this one as well. Downside if you put plague/engineer on elves, you might negate this card, depending on its toughness.
scroll of fate is a way to feed a contamination lock by providing a creature each turn
So, how about Fires of Invention in B/R pox?
By the time you can expect to play a 4-mana enchantment in pox both players hands are probably near-empty, and if you're topdecking then this card doesn't really do anything, because any spell that could be cast with its ability could be cast from lands instead. It's nice that it lets you play spells for free while you keep your mana open for Mishra's Factory / Cursed Scroll activations but it doesn't seem worth spending 4 mana and a card for this effect. It would probably be better just to have a card like Coercive Portal / Bottled Cloister
Taking a depths flavor of pox to the weekly Monday, inspired by a list i found in here a while back. Have the following list.
4 crop rotation
3 inquisition of Kozilek
3 hymn to tourach
4 smallpox
2 cabal therapy
4 lili of the veil
3 abrupt decay
3 entomb
2 life from the loam
1 toxic deluge
1 ravens crime
1 nether spirit
1 darkblast
1 pernicious deed
1 tabernacle at pendrell vale
1 cabal pit
4 wasteland
3 urborg, tomb of yawgmoth
4 verdant catacomb
1 bloodstained mire
1 polluted delta
1 dark depths
2 swamp
1 forest
4 bayou
2 thespian's stage
1 mishra's factory
1 bojuka bog
board:
1 golgari brownscale
1 bontu's reckoning
2 surgical extraction
2 engineered plague
1 leyline of the void
1 krosan reclamation
1 coffin purge
1 sadistic sacrament
1 damping sphere
1 choke
1 pithing needle
1 lost legacy
1 <open>
The deck definitely has a toolbox feel to it, as does the sideboard. I can probably get away with swapping Thoughtsieze for IoK but other than that, any late suggestions that might be a good idea? I'm thinking the board will be -brownscale, + leyline and + another bontu or deluge.
Quick results.
R1 vs burn. W 2-1
R2 vs Red Prison, L 1-2
R3 vs Snow Aluren combo W 2-1.
Final 2-1.
Took 3rd on breakers in an 8 person weekly.
Decks represented: Maverick, Pox, RUG Dreadhorde arcanist (with shardless), BUG snow Aluren, burn, I think a jund deck, I think a lands deck, and not sure on the last one.
R1 burn g1 vs Ward, on the draw
he takes early fetch damage, drops a Taylor swiftspear and starts doing burn things. I eventually small pox it away taking advantage of raven's crime and a decently high land count to buy a few extra turns. He gets me down to 10 and i was able to summon the Marit Lage. He could get me down to 1 i think. Just barely got by.
R1 G2 he's on the play, He gets his swiftspear in play again and again it gets dealt with shortly thereafter. I try to assemble the combo but he wastelands at the appropriate time. He only takes fetch damage and bolts me for the win.
R1 G3 he starts off with a soul scar mage and i small pox that away and follow up with factory beats for a bit. He eventually gets me down to 3 life and i'm swinging in with factory and he hast a wasteland up. I keep stage and mana up to copy in response should I need to. He blanks on his draws i think 3-4 turns in a row somehow which is enough for the factory to finish him off.
R2 g1 vs red prison.
He starts off with chalice on 1, i follow up with a factory. He comes back with a chalice on 2 whit some sol lands. I get a lili going and start ticking up and discarding a spirit to get that clock going. I get lili up to 7 (wanted to ult and keep her) but he lands a rabblemaster and comes back at lili with the token. So I ult her and split his chalices (I had small pox and 2 crop rotations, so either would have been fine to regain the game). He kept chalice on 1, so I small poxed away the rest of his guys and then go in with the spirit. He tries to bridge him off but it doesn't work as he doesn't fine lands and his hand gets too big.
R2g2, t1 chalice on 1, t2 blood moon. I dig and dig for basics and i don't really find what i need (abrupt decay). Was hunted by a couple of SSgs that I was eventually able to dispatch, but Chandra kills me after.
R2 g3, we start off and he t0 double leyline. I hymn him and get some good stuff, but he has a Chandra again and i can't do much to interact with that (or the moon) and i just die 2 points at a time.
R3, g1 vs aluren. Didn't take many notes so going off memory.
I start off with Iok then a hymn and do lots of pox things. I am able to get in with factory and/or double factory (thanks to stage) all the way down to 5, then he pulled off the combo. I had a pretty big misplay, as i had threshold, mana, and a cabal pit in play that MIGHT have been able to disrupt the combo. He was at 5, then took himself down to 1 with beast activations and I think i have the timing window to -2/-2 a key part. Maybe not. It wound up not mattering in the end but he gets me there.
R3g2 I get quick disruption again and drop a lili that he lets resolve. After a few upticks and getting a few lands blown up he concedes to the lili lock. I think i had my loam in the yard to boot, but i can't recall.
R3g3 we slug it out for the "win and in" for top 4. I wish i had better notes because there was a lot of back and forth in this game. Lots of disruption followed by his drawing to try and dig out of it. I have crop rotation, lili, and a few other spells in hand when he drops a spyglass. Naturally he names lili (he had not seen the depth's package yet, but had suspected it). Unfortunately for him my next card off the top is stage so i drop it and clear the coast for the rotation into depths. I get it and the creature comes out. He manages to get his aluren but no combo. He drops a 2 coatls, a clique and i think another flyer in the process of his digging really worrying me he'd find his combo. Once again i forget that i have cabal pit to take care of the surprise blocker, so after 3 of these getting flashed in i wise up and crop rotate for it and take care of him. This was a real fun match up and a real fun game.
Also, props to the neoform player for giving me a jump as my truck battery or alternator decided to crap out. Some misplays today but overall had fun. Got some props on the deck which is always nice and the people were good too and as always, got to play new decks i hadn't played against before. Legacy is awesome!
edit: fixed spelling/grammar errors.
This card seems like it could be alright in pox:
Brainstorm Realist
I close my eyes and sink within myself, relive the gift of precious memories, in need of a fix called innocence. - Chuck Shuldiner
Yup, that land is definitely solid
Almost certainly better than the Mikokoro some people have been using in the past (and also better than Geier Reach Sanitarium unless you are trying to combo it with Chains of Mephistopheles)
For those wanting to get on the prison pox build, voids are coming down in price quite a bit. SCG has had them on sale a while and recently dropped prices again (comparable to ebay sold listings, but likely in better condition and much better reliability). Not sure why the HP ones aren't discounted but whatever.
https://www.starcitygames.com/result...er+Void&auto=Y
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_fro...&LH_Complete=1
(I don't work for them or anything, just spreading news for anyone on the hunt for them).
Given how successful Blood Moon is right now in this meta, is it time to play Contamination? Beats RUG, beats 4c, beats Depths, etc... Scroll of Fate really supports the lock.
//Lands: 25
4 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
4 Mishra's Factory
4 Wasteland
1 Nurturing Peatland
1 Cabal Pit
3 City of Traitors
8 Swamp
//Spells: 19
4 Dark Ritual
3 Inquisition of Kozilek
3 Duress
4 Hymn to Tourach
4 Smallpox
1 Toxic Deluge
//Creatures: 4
4 Bloodghast
//Enchantments and Artifacts: 8
3 Contamination
3 Crucible of Worlds
2 Scroll of Fate
//Planeswalkers: 4
4 Liliana of the Veil
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