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    Re: [Deck] Aluren

    Another chumpblocker or the best cannon fodder for Therapy / Intent. Not as bad as it seems.

    The way I see it, current Legacy demands that all decks have at least one of: mana acceleration; undercosted stuff; or disruption against your opponent's plan. If your deck moves at the speed of one land per turn, doesn't have unfair effects for 3 mana or less, and doesn't do anything to make your opponent move at the same speed as you, you're doomed to lose. Since Aluren doesn't really play anything spectacular and can't completely dedicate itself to interact with your opponent because of its combo-ish nature, it needs mana acceleration, both to keep up with the rest of the format and to fight tempo decks.

    Back when Legacy had the Goblins - Threshold - Solidarity/Landstill trio as dominating decks, Aluren mostly resorted to Wall of Roots to fight Wasteland and Rishadan Port (it was also necessary to combo into infinite mana). Today, a 2cc drop isn't going to cut it. I like Explorer for its overall synergy with sacrifice effects and the way it uses chumpblocks and creature removal to your advantage. If it didn't exist, I guess I'd try some combination of Ancient Tomb with Birds of Paradise / Deathrite Shaman.

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    Shouldn't there be a decent way that we can abuse this guy?


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    Re: [Deck] Aluren



    this guy + harpy = mill

    and that guy above + husk = swinging for millions.
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    Mortus Strider = Endless Cockroaches

    Sage's Row Denizen = Merrow Witsniper = Drowner of Secrets


    Absolutely nothing new.

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    Re: [Deck] Aluren

    yeah, well atleast i'll get shocklands I miss.

    wish they were fetches though
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    Re: [Deck] Aluren

    So, finally played with my own Shardless Agents.

    Love them. Decided to include again Living Wishes (atleast 3) and perhaps Impulse.

    Intuition with Agent is bad, and wishes allows for more tech in SB / toolkit instead of
    fishing for it with Imperial Recruiters (they're on ebay already!)

    Do we have anything we could "set up" with agent except harpy, oracle, brainstorm, and wishes in my build?
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    Re: [Deck] Aluren

    Good luck with topdecking Aluren without Intuitions. Your only option left is Academy Rector in SB.

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    Re: [Deck] Aluren

    LDV could work well with agent.
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    Re: [Deck] Aluren

    Cascading into LDV could be nice. I just dislike casting it from hand. Pure card disadvantage.

    EDIT: When you go off only with Agent, cascading into LDV hurt. You don't have to care about Intuitions there.

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    Re: [Deck] Aluren

    What's LDV?
    I am convinced that WotC is "dumbing" the game because of all the stupid posts they come across on MTG-related forums
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    Quote Originally Posted by (nameless one) View Post
    What's LDV?
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    Re: [Deck] Aluren

    I'd like to share the list I am playing. I'd appreciate comments.

    7 modern green fetches
    3 island
    4 forest
    1 swamp
    2 trops
    1 sea
    1 bayou
    1 taiga

    4 recruiter
    4 oracle
    3 veteran explorer
    2 dream stalker
    2 raven familiar
    1 parasitic strix
    1 cavern harpy
    1 e. witness

    4 force of will
    4 brainstorm
    4 aluren
    4 cabal therapy
    2 chain of vapor
    2 diabolic intent
    2 intuition

    sideboard work in progress
    so far
    1 bone shredder
    1 stern proctor


    Some notes.

    I realized that gitaxian probe sucked and was better replaced with cards that ramp (explorer) or help search (ravens). chain of vapor over repeal. It took the first gaddock teeg to hit the table to realize that. I don't want any "recruiter is dead pre-combo" or "they're too expensive"

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    Re: [Deck] Aluren

    I've found out that the builds depend on your play style. If you're happy with it, its the best one.
    Try putting in one Man'o'war instead of 2nd Dream Stalker. Manowar can deal with Taeg, etc. or just stall board, bounce their pressure guy...

    Shardless Agent and Phantasmal Image? 2-3 copies. In worst case he goes into cascade once again, he can chump, copy goyf, kill legendaries,
    copy goyfs, knights etc...
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    Re: [Deck] Aluren

    To buy 2x Rec for 190$? judge foil ofc
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    If you cast image copying shardless; you won't cascade.

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    Re: [Deck] Aluren



    OMG not again.

    anything white worth adding?
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    I would say no. And even if you did want to splash white, would this creature really be better than Dream Stalker who doesn't target? Granted it has flash, but Aluren gives all your creatures flash.

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    Re: [Deck] Aluren

    Quote Originally Posted by kkoie View Post
    I would say no. And even if you did want to splash white, would this creature really be better than Dream Stalker who doesn't target? Granted it has flash, but Aluren gives all your creatures flash.
    It does have MAY in his wording. Also, can remove opp creatures. But still not worth adding probably. Can bounce Taeg EOT though
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    Re: [Deck] Aluren

    Quote Originally Posted by swoop View Post
    It does have MAY in his wording. Also, can remove opp creatures. But still not worth adding probably. Can bounce Taeg EOT though
    Much much worse than dream stalker. You still need to target a creature you control, you just don't have to return it if the ability resolves and it CAN'T return an opponent's creature.

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    Re: [Deck] Aluren

    Splashing white gives you E-tutor, but it's not worth it even with this creature.
    Edit: rtfc.
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