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    If you had to start from scratch?

    Hi all,

    A friend of mine wants to get into legacy.
    I have a fairly limited amount of legacy staples myself, in that I only have 4 of any money card for the decks I play, so lending them is situational at best.

    But all the same, he wants to get in and drop the cash.
    He is a longtime player (longer than me anyway!) who owns lots of multiplayer staples, but hasn't got too many of the money cards. He's willing to drop cash to get in on a fun-to-play competitive deck, provided it's a deck that isn't linear & boring. (like Burn)
    So;
    IF you were to start from scratch, looking for a deck that's highly enjoyable to play - which deck would you buy if budget wasn't your first consideration?
    And why?

    Cheers.

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    Re: If you had to start from scratch?

    Well I always say nic fit. But ive also become a big fan of the Hoogland Loam deck as well
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    Re: If you had to start from scratch?

    When I got back into Legacy like a year ago I built high tide. I think it was the right choice.

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    Re: If you had to start from scratch?

    Actually this is more or less the question about our favorite deck..

    Id chose either BladeControl or Canadian, because theyre both long time d2b. Or my fav deck, which is goblins.
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    Re: If you had to start from scratch?

    I think the important question here is as well what kind of decks your buddy likes to play. For example, I bought into Legacy with Miracles, then shifted into Esperblade, and both of these decks are extremely enjoyable for me. Last two tournaments I swapped decks with my buddy who is on S&T and other one who was on Canadian and I was simply not having fun with the decks, despite them both being "blue", I just find them... boring.

    Moral of the story? Even amongst the top tier decks that are fun to play, there are always those that fit your playstyle far more than others. So while the question What deck to recommend is valid, I believe it's better to narrow it down to deckstyle first.

    And if you just want vote - Esperblade or BUG.

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    Re: If you had to start from scratch?

    Fair enough - thanks for the suggestions fella's.

    He's a big fan of decks with lots of interaction, lots of variables etc.
    Linear or predictable combo, like Show and Tell.deck is definitely not his thing.

    Nic Fit and Esper Blade both sound like great suggestions.
    He has borrowed my semi-competitive goblin deck a few times, he likes that one too.
    Any others?

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    Re: If you had to start from scratch?

    If I were to enter the format fresh, I'd probably start just like I did a few years ago. I started with Mono-black aggro, upgraded that to Eva Green, and now play Team America (along with other decks). Perhaps, I'd do burn -> UR delver -> Canned Thresh now instead since burn and UR are more competitive than MBA and Eva Green. But yeah, I'm a fan of low initial investments then building up. That way if you later find the deck you're building into doesn't suite your playstyle as well as you thought it would, it's not so devastating to start over.

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    Re: If you had to start from scratch?

    Tell him to download cockatrice (woogerworks or whatever it is now) and play a bunch of different games with a bunch of different decks. He will learn pretty fast what decks he enjoys playing. From there it's all about ebaying and finding deals for the deck he decides on

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    Re: If you had to start from scratch?

    I started with merfolk then branched out to thresh/ur delver/team america. There's plenty of viable delver and goyf decks currently in the meta.

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    Re: If you had to start from scratch?

    Maverick is also another one to look into. Lots of lines of play and decisions to be made.
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    Re: If you had to start from scratch?

    Any Delver list is going to be a good choice.

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    Re: If you had to start from scratch?

    Tell him to pick up GW-maverick. It contains no blue cards so the investment isn't extreme and the cards for it are basically quite cheap. The most expensive is the Savannah's and fetches and the rest is bought for pennies.

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    Re: If you had to start from scratch?

    Goblins has always been around and Tier 2, that'd be safe investment. Otherwise RUG Delver or Maverick would be a wise start. He could always move to (X/)X/G Maverick as it has the starting basis for multiple deck types.

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    Re: If you had to start from scratch?

    I'd recommend ester blade / miracles cause it can morph into other deck with just a couple different cards. It provides a great base of cards.

    Personally i play sneak attack cause its superior to the other decks. I like it a lot because after a long day at a scg or GP with 6+ rounds i dont feel like i just got mind raped like i do when i play esper blade or miracles. I also hate going to time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slave View Post
    Fair enough - thanks for the suggestions fella's.

    He's a big fan of decks with lots of interaction, lots of variables etc.
    Linear or predictable combo, like Show and Tell.deck is definitely not his thing.

    Nic Fit and Esper Blade both sound like great suggestions.
    He has borrowed my semi-competitive goblin deck a few times, he likes that one too.
    Any others?
    Stiflenought or RUG Delver.

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    Re: If you had to start from scratch?

    +1 to Nic Fit. I've been stuck on the Scapewish version for months now and every game with the deck is a blast. There's all kinds of options - burning wish, GSZ, cabal therapy.

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    Re: If you had to start from scratch?

    If everything fails, there's always Nourishing Lich. Dreaming of the day someone Day2's a GP with it! I'd gladly donate a Dual Land of choice to such a person. If we all team up, we could actually provide quite an incentive for people to try!
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    Re: If you had to start from scratch?

    Quote Originally Posted by useL View Post
    Tell him to pick up GW-maverick. It contains no blue cards so the investment isn't extreme and the cards for it are basically quite cheap. The most expensive is the Savannah's and fetches and the rest is bought for pennies.
    Hell with maverick you could play with GW shocks at first and save yourself like 300 bucks and slowly get Savannah
    Quote Originally Posted by Richard Cheese View Post
    I've been taking shitty brews and tier 2 decks to tournaments and losing with them for years now. Welcome to the club. We meet for cocktails after round 6.
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    Top quality german restraint there.

    If I'm at the point where I'm rage quitting, you can bet your kransky that I'm calling everyone involved a cunt.

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    Re: If you had to start from scratch?

    I would say merfolk because all its relatively cheap and of the expensive cards you can use Force of Will, Wasteland and Daze in many other decks so only Mutavault and Aether Vial have not much different use.

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