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    Re: [Deck] MonoU OmniTell

    I played mono U for at least 3 years. Quit for 2 years. Been playing for 4 months ish now. In the case of instant vs sorcery,I'm well aware instant is superior. I choose Burning Wish. Get over it! Make more productive posts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Curtis Dittmar View Post
    I played mono U for at least 3 years. Quit for 2 years. Been playing for 4 months ish now. In the case of instant vs sorcery,I'm well aware instant is superior. I choose Burning Wish. Get over it! Make more productive posts.
    Agreed. Pyroblast is an extremely good card, but saying it is the main reason to choose a red splash is false. Burning Wish is the reason. Being able to win at instant speed is important at times, and irrelevant in many cases. Having 7 show and tell without losing card advantage is good. Not saying that black splash is worse.

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    Hi all!

    And the new "London Mulligan", what do you think?

    If that's turns on, maybe the mono blue explosive deck with 4 LotS in the side shall returns figures into the tier 1 decks?
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    Re: [Deck] MonoU OmniTell

    3/4 drop for the open. 6/2 for the classic. Finished 24th.

    (Classic)
    Rd 1-Burn 2/1
    Rd 2-Miricals 0/2
    Rd 3-Death Shadows 2/1
    Rd 4-Elves 2/1
    Rd 5-Elves 2/0
    Rd 6-Grixis Delver 0/2
    Rd 7-Death and Taxes 2/1
    Rd 8-Burn 2/1

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lejay View Post
    I now have played a bunch of legacy leagues and I have to say the deck seems only ok. I have done a whole lot of 3-2s without much variance (rare 4-1s and just slightly rarer 3 defeats).
    My guess would be that people are more prepared for it and my past results were capitalizing on people being lost facing the deck. The metagame also feels tougher. I seem to face discard a lot, not so many combo decks. Lands and 4c loam were easy match-ups and they seem to have almost completely and completely disappeared.
    It could also be me doing something wrong with my card choices and I don't realize.

    So only play it if it seems justified by your metagame I'd say.
    My final sideboard is :

    SB: 3 Surgical Extraction
    SB: 1 Skeletal Scrying
    SB: 1 Release the Ants
    SB: 1 Noxious Revival
    SB: 1 Force of Will
    SB: 1 Firemind's Foresight
    SB: 1 Spell Pierce
    SB: 1 Eladamri's Call
    SB: 1 Murderous Cut
    SB: 1 Cryptic Command
    SB: 1 Dimir Charm
    SB: 1 Baleful Strix
    SB: 1 Echoing Decay

    Multiple removals seem safer vs Thalia decks. Dimir Charm is only slightly inferior to 2nd pierce. Echoing Decay is still the most useful wish option among unsure slots. 2nd pierce instead of 3rd surgical is still a possiblity, so consider that if your meta has not many grave decks, and in this case Dimir Charm can become something else.

    Baleful strix is the most questionable slot as it's not wishable and I don't side it in that much, but I don't see another good option vs delver that is good enough elsewhere. Reanimate is a bit low vs delver without 4 strix but you could be playing 2nd pierce, reanimate, and a specific removal instead of 3rd surgical, 4th strix and Dimir Charm.

    I guess most of my mtg play will be with the format in my signature now.^^
    I have played a few leagues recently with the Ub list. Starting with a 5-0 helped bring motivation to test stuff, but then 3-2, 3-2, 4-1, 3-2 (so not great but still a solid deck, and I did a few decisive mistakes).
    The stuff was other arrangements of discard and (once again) Mastermind's Acquisition. I didn't like Mastermind's previously in my list and any cut is tough now, but there are very few things I would test anyway so I tried it again, mostly as a pseudo 3rd Emrakul that can do things once in a while. Before the last league I realized that rain of filth in the sideboard, another tech I dismissed previously (because discard+surgical decks often put you low on ressources so its value where it is the most needed is close to zero), would actually be more interesting with the Mastermind's Acquisition in the deck. If I play both, that means that all the times where I have MA+Cunning Wish+AnotherWish/Emrakul+ either S&T or Omni in hand with 3 lands, I can wish for Rain of Filth so that any land draw let me combo next turn. If I already have the 4th land but neither S&T or Omni nor another turn, I can play turn 3 Wish for RoF and have either Omni or S&T as outs. The move is an all in one, but it should happen regularly that you are to the wall and don't have a choice, or that you prefer to end the game as soon as possible.
    Also I am sure it will sometimes be the right move to wish for RoF so that you can Discard+ show and tell on 3 lands or be able to play one more cantrip to find the missing piece. It will also work well with intuition.
    So I tried that and despite doing just 3-2 Rain of filth did shine. As soon as the second match after a phoenix player surgicaled my Show and Tells (and I surgicaled his confidants). Achievement unlocked pretty quickly, that's encouraging.

    I wished RoF end of turn and drew seize luckily. He surgicaled Mastermind's acquisition in response, thought for a while, and tried fluster. I didn't pay and played omniscience with no board.
    I also used it in a game post sb vs D&T to bypass Thalia+port and win with Wish Call. The guy mulliganed to 5 on the play and didn't draw a lot but I am still glad I could end the game one turn earlier since he had a vial at 3.

    The cuts I did were Echoing Decay for Rain of filth sb (I rarely have a flex slot in my builds so this one was quick) and MA instead of 3rd Strix main deck. This is really the only cut you can do unless you cut a wish. I did cut a wish when I first tested MA a few months ago and I didn't like that. Since I really want to keep 4 strixes in the 75 for tempo, I've cut the 3rd surgical which was the (by default) most questionable slot. Without Echoing Decay I don't have many removals, so I'd better keep Dimir Charm which is the last slot to answer Teeg when Emrakul isn't enough and has been pretty useful and versatile and is probably set in stone now.

    2/3 Inquisition of Kozilek (or 2 inquisition and 1 Thought Erasure)
    3/4 Thoughtseize
    4 Omniscience
    4 Cunning Wish
    4 Polluted Delta
    3 Scalding Tarn
    6 Island
    4 Brainstorm
    4 Ponder
    4 Preordain
    3 Force of Will
    4 Show and Tell
    2 Underground Sea
    2 Lim-Dl's Vault
    2 Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
    1 Intuition
    2 Baleful Strix
    2 Bloodstained Mire
    2 Swamp
    1 Mastermind's Acquisition

    1 Noxious Revival
    1 Firemind's Foresight
    1 Eladamri's Call
    2 Surgical Extraction
    1 Release the Ants
    1 Murderous Cut
    1 Cryptic Command
    1 Force of Will
    2 Baleful Strix
    1 Skeletal Scrying
    1 Spell Pierce
    1 Dimir Charm
    1 Rain of Filth

    I played with a 3/3 split of discard spells. 3rd strix main was the change that allowed me at one point to go up to 4 seize without too much concern. Now with just two I think I have to ponder options between keeping 4th seize, having the 3/3 split, or putting back Thought Erasure. A few leagues before I tried 4 IoK 2 Seize just to see if I could go away with it and it almost didn't matter. Thought Erasure is also tempting because the curve at 2 would just go back to what I had with 3 strix and it did have value (ultimately I had found the 1cc of 4th Seize slightly more valuable than TE).

    So if anyone is interested in testing extensively the list, I recommend playing 2 Iok, 3 Seize, 1 Thought Erasure. The question you should be asking yourself while testing/playing at tournaments are "is Thought Erasure better than 4th seize or 3rd IoK", and "is Mastermind's Acquisition better than 3rd Emrakul".

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    Re: [Deck] MonoU OmniTell

    I (once again) dropped the idea of Mastermind's Acquisition. I face very few delver decks online, so I think I will play the full counter suite main deck (2 pierce 4 fow) and strix sideboard to be safe versus combo and edge versus heavy discard decks that are many.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lejay View Post
    I (once again) dropped the idea of Mastermind's Acquisition. I face very few delver decks online, so I think I will play the full counter suite main deck (2 pierce 4 fow) and strix sideboard to be safe versus combo and edge versus heavy discard decks that are many.
    Nice 5-0 yesterday! With the "classic" ub version! Very nice!
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