While the update to the legend rule has some implications for the format, the change to the planeswalker uniqueness rule is HUGE. Unless I'm misinterpreting this... No longer will my Jace be a 4 mana "kill Jace" spell. You can -2 your Liliana, then play a new one and +1 her to have a 4 loyalty Liliana! Discuss?
http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazin...y/feature/248e
Also note the changes to the sideboarding rules...
This seems really bizarre. At first glance, I don't think I like it, but I need to think about it more. Seems like Jace may have just gotten a lot better since there are fewer ways to kill him now. And not that it really matters that much, but Jace Beleren just got a lot worse...
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Vendillion Clique approves of this rules update. Jace/Liliana grind wars somehow found a way to become grindier...
Geist, Emrakrul, Karakas on each side of the table... let the chaos begin~!
If you think DnT mirror is bad right now, it'll get worse after this.
So awful... This is just terribad. Like why... This just breaks cards in half. Now you can play 4 Gaeas Cradles in Elves. Tap my Gaeas cradle for 4. Play my Land for turn which is a Gaeas Cradle. Tap for 4 more. Am I doing it right? Tap my Mox Opal for Black. Play Mox Opal, Tap my new Mox Opal for red. Hooray Magic is hard! Now whats the downside to playing a bunch of copies of legendary creatures again?
Holy shit, Mox Opal got way better with this update. It literally has no downsides now.
You can still only have one of a legendary permanent on your side. Your Cradles will both die. At least that's what I'm assuming if it's still a state-based effect.
If you're playing the Elves mirror, however, your Gaea's Cradle won't kill your opponent's.
Your Mox Opals and Gaeas Cradles just become Pseudo rituals
No. You choose which cradle dies and you keep one
Edit: MEGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAADEUS
Edit edit: Phyrexian Tower + Bloodghast doesn't sound miserable, either, but it ain't no 99 mana Gaea's Cradle.
Gaea's Cradle just broke in half.
Elves: "Tap my Cradle, play 8 more elves, play Cradle No. 2, keep it, tap it."
Rest of the rules are whatevs – at least they're all better than the original Legend rule, so there's that – but I don't like the land rule. It looks like they were going for "intuitive" again, with intuitive meaning "easy for new players to understand." I feel like it's going to be another one of those rules where you explain it to some mid-level player, and he or she will be like, "But as far as the game cares, it's a new permanent, why doesn't it get to apply?" and you'll have to answer, "Because there's another rule in a totally different section of the comp rules that's meant to make this game more intuitive. FML, right?"
The proper plural must be "hall of fames." You wouldn't say Halls & Oate, now, would you?
Oh, so you can tap one for mana, play another, sac the tapped one and tap the new one? Wow. That's pretty damn good.
Its stupid is what it is. Jace Races sound awful.
Me Fate seal you my jace is at 5
You Fate seal You my jace is at 5
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These rules are terrible. It completely nullifies the entire purpose of having something be legendary. 2 legendary permanents should never be in play at the same time regardless of who's side of the table they are on. I feel like it would have almost been better to just not allow the second legendary / planes walker card to enter play or be cast. 2 jaces should never be in play at the same time and you should never be able to cast another jace while you have one in play...clearly he is already fighting for you in one form...
This rule definitely favors the original caster. where as the old rule kept things balanced.
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Cradle & Opal just got ridiculous. Elves and storm improved? Can an artifact heavy storm combo deck work now? Petals, LEDs, Chrome Moxes, Opals + Top enough?
Also it's funny if the Show And Tell Player puts down an Emrakul and the other guy has a clone for it. But the opponent gets to bash first. LOL!
No stopping new ones from being cast was the old rule and whoever gets theirs first really wins. Play my jace? Good luck killing it.
I dont think clone works like that if I remember correctly... But hell you can just plop in your own griselbrand / emrakul and smash them into each other
I think the new rules are "better," but they certainly don't work well with a lot of existing cards. I wouldn't be too surprised if Gaea's Cradle got banned as a result of this.
They are horrid. Now you dont have to care what your opponent is doing and you dont get punished for making a play mistake of casting the same legend twice.. How is this a good rule again?
Speculation says that the next block "Theros" is going to be legend-heavy, hence the change.
Both sides can now use JMS at the same time? Oh boy, those control mirrors are going to be fun!
Show & Tell mirrors getting a strange dynamic now as well. If both players drop an Emrakul, they get to swing with their copy first due to the lack of haste.
The Cradle thing is interesting. Should also be relevant for Enchantress with Explorations in play and Serra's Sanctum.
Not mentioned so far, but also highly relevant: Jitte wars
Are there any Legacy-playable legends with good CIT abilities?
Non-artifact, Non-land, Legendary permanent doesn't have haste => price goes down
Legendary permanent has haste or Legendary artifact or Legendary land => price goes up
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