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    Speculate: What prices will go up and what will go down?

    After this new rules change.

    my guess for going up.

    1. jace
    2. vendillion clique
    3. jitte
    4. thespian stage
    5. dark depths

    down
    1. griselbrand
    2. emrukhal

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    Re: Speculate: What prices will go up and what will go down?

    I think the primary gainer is Dark Depths, it can be splashed in like every single colour and tutored with Expedition Map which is also colourless.

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    Re: Speculate: What prices will go up and what will go down?

    Flagstones? Mox Opal? Gaeas Cradle? Liliana?

    Pretty much legendary that was once bad in multiples will probably go up.

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    Re: Speculate: What prices will go up and what will go down?

    IMHO, most of the cards you listed are arguably not much better than they were a few hours ago.

    Much better:

    1. Depths
    2. Stage

    Much worse:

    1. Phyrexian Metamorph

    I don't follow the logic that Jace, Jitte, etc. are much more useful than before. Often times, pwning your opponent's ____ (insert legend here) is preferred over landing your own. Yes, you can get double Jace activations, double Clique triggers, etc... but those usually aren't very strong plays.

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    Re: Speculate: What prices will go up and what will go down?

    Good thing I have a Russian Thespians Stage!
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    Re: Speculate: What prices will go up and what will go down?

    Lets watch:
    http://ark42.com/mtg/pricehistory.ph...f+the+veil&d=0

    Current Prices of 10 cards to note in relation to the changes: date ~May 22nd 2013

    Liliana of the Veil: 50$
    Jace the Mind Sculptor: 150$
    Karakas: 120$
    Vendilion Clique: 55$
    Emrakul: 35$
    Griselbrand: 18$
    Thalia, Guardian of Thraben: 4$
    Gaea's Cradle: 120$
    Mox Opal: 30$
    Flagstones of Trokair: 7$

    Lets see the prices in 3 days / 2 weeks
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    Re: Speculate: What prices will go up and what will go down?

    Quote Originally Posted by feline View Post
    Lets watch:
    http://ark42.com/mtg/pricehistory.ph...f+the+veil&d=0

    Current Prices of some cards to note in relation to the changes: date ~May 22nd 2013

    Liliana of the Veil: 50$
    Jace the Mind Sculptor: 150$
    Karakas: 120$
    Vendilion Clique: 55$
    Emrakul: 35$
    Griselbrand: 18$
    Thalia, Guardian of Thraben: 4$
    Gaea's Cradle: 120$
    Mox Opal: 30$

    Lets see the prices in 3 days / 2 weeks
    dont' forget dark depths and thespian stage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KobeBryan View Post
    dont' forget dark depths and thespian stage.
    Why would those cards care AT ALL about the changes? Dark Depths doesnt get one bit better... Dark Depths werent being legendruled by opponents before and having the ability to replace one DD with another is also not an upside on DD, compared to cradle for example...
    Thespian Stage got worse cause you cant kill Academy Ruins and Karakas with it anymore and theres no added upside unless you combine it with cradle, which is just not worth it. Both of these cards arent affected by the changes in the slightest...

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    Re: Speculate: What prices will go up and what will go down?

    Quote Originally Posted by Pascal3000 View Post
    Why would those cards care AT ALL about the changes? Dark Depths doesnt get one bit better... Dark Depths werent being legendruled by opponents before and having the ability to replace one DD with another is also not an upside on DD, compared to cradle for example...
    Thespian Stage got worse cause you cant kill Academy Ruins and Karakas with it anymore and theres no added upside unless you combine it with cradle, which is just not worth it. Both of these cards arent affected by the changes in the slightest...
    Thespian Stage + Dark Depths is now a combo that creates a 20/20. That is a reason that the prices of these matter.
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    Re: Speculate: What prices will go up and what will go down?

    Let's face is: Green now has the best Dark Ritual in the game. 4 Gaea's Cradle in Elves all the way!
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    Re: Speculate: What prices will go up and what will go down?

    Quote Originally Posted by Pascal3000 View Post
    Why would those cards care AT ALL about the changes? Dark Depths doesnt get one bit better... Dark Depths werent being legendruled by opponents before and having the ability to replace one DD with another is also not an upside on DD, compared to cradle for example...
    Thespian Stage got worse cause you cant kill Academy Ruins and Karakas with it anymore and theres no added upside unless you combine it with cradle, which is just not worth it. Both of these cards arent affected by the changes in the slightest...
    Think about what happens when you use Thespian's Stage to copy Dark Depths. Once you realize what's going on, you'll understand exactly why it's going to go up.
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    Re: Speculate: What prices will go up and what will go down?

    Quote Originally Posted by Pascal3000 View Post
    Why would those cards care AT ALL about the changes? Dark Depths doesnt get one bit better... Dark Depths werent being legendruled by opponents before and having the ability to replace one DD with another is also not an upside on DD, compared to cradle for example...
    Thespian Stage got worse cause you cant kill Academy Ruins and Karakas with it anymore and theres no added upside unless you combine it with cradle, which is just not worth it. Both of these cards arent affected by the changes in the slightest...
    Urr, Thespian Stage combos with Dark Depths so make a 20/20. It's basically a colourless land based combo.

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    Re: Speculate: What prices will go up and what will go down?

    With the Flagstone change, I can see Dust Bowl rising as well since running 4 Flagstones has become alot better.

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    Re: Speculate: What prices will go up and what will go down?

    1. Cradle (It's Not Elves-exclusive)
    2. Liliana of the Veil (Even more)
    3. Mox Opal (affinity, Storm Combo)
    4. Dark Depths (See 5)
    5. Thespian's Stage (See 4)
    6. Karakas
    7. vendilion Clique
    8. phantasmal Image (Pure win with/against Cliques/Emrakul/Griselbrand/S&T/Stoneforge-mirror/Geist)

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    Re: Speculate: What prices will go up and what will go down?

    I dont expect to see prices change much. But Jitte will be even worse :(
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    Re: Speculate: What prices will go up and what will go down?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lemnear View Post
    1. Cradle (It's Not Elves-exclusive)
    2. Liliana of the Veil (Even more)
    3. Mox Opal (affinity, Storm Combo)
    4. Dark Depths (See 5)
    5. Thespian's Stage (See 4)
    6. Karakas
    7. vendilion Clique
    8. phantasmal Image (Pure win with/against Cliques/Emrakul/Griselbrand/S&T/Stoneforge-mirror/Geist)

    all up
    I think these will be the cards which will go up indeed. I honestly don't see these cards double their current value though.

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    Re: Speculate: What prices will go up and what will go down?

    I don't want to imagine those upcoming ugly Jitte wars. I guess in that respect - Abrupt Decay becomes even more important against any Deck packing SFM.

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    Clique is going to go up. It was already on the rise and will rise even more. Gaea's Cradle risks getting banned. Depths / Stage is going to be relevant for MUD. Sol Lands activate Thespian Stage quicker, and Crucible of Worlds mean that you can keep summoning 20/20's regardless of StP. Regular decks can't really afford to run lands that don't tap for mana. That combo might also be relevant for turbo emrakul but I am not knowledgable enough about that deck. What I do know is that Thespian Stage can copy locus, and that it runs expedition map, so splashing a Dark Depths seems to fit the plan of 'get big guy into play quickly'.

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    Re: Speculate: What prices will go up and what will go down?

    Quote Originally Posted by bruizar View Post
    Clique is going to go up. It was already on the rise and will rise even more. Gaea's Cradle risks getting banned. Depths / Stage is going to be relevant for MUD. Sol Lands activate Thespian Stage quicker, and Crucible of Worlds mean that you can keep summoning 20/20's regardless of StP. Regular decks can't really afford to run lands that don't tap for mana. That combo might also be relevant for turbo emrakul but I am not knowledgable enough about that deck. What I do know is that Thespian Stage can copy locus, and that it runs expedition map, so splashing a Dark Depths seems to fit the plan of 'get big guy into play quickly'.
    That would be unfortunate. Cradle is really one of the most iconic cards... If elves come back in full force i'll dust off my Lava Darts i guess.

    Emmy's going to go down a bit. SnT him into a Clone will be the worst thing ever.

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    Re: Speculate: What prices will go up and what will go down?

    The Dark Depths combo with Thespian's Stage is heavy!

    I currently see mainly the following going up:


    Jace, the Mind Sculptor
    Liliana of the Veil
    Dark Depths
    Thespian's Stage
    Gaea's Cradle


    Phyrexian Metamorph might go down a little bit, but it is already in relatively low prices, so it doesn't matter.

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