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    Color Question Related to Legacy

    What are the best 1 mana spells that represent their color the most?

    ie IMO:

    Black: Cabal Therapy
    Blue: Brainstorm
    Red: Lightning Bolt
    White: Swords to Plowshares
    Green: ??
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    Green Sun's Zenith

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    Noble Hierarch is the most traditionally Green spell. Decent card that's better in every strategy except the ones Green enjoys best, worse comes to worst it gets sacrificed to Natural Order to put something multi-colored and game-ending into play.
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    Re: Color Question Related to Legacy

    White: swords to plowshares
    Blue brainstorm
    Green deathrite shaman
    Red bolt

    But black has alot on 1 mana tbh, deathrite shaman thoughtseize and dark ritual.

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    I've always had a soft spot for old Giant Growth. Oh, Giant Growth, I really miss that big rat.
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    I don't really see GSZ as Green per se... Giant Growth I can agree to, though.
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    I've always had a soft spot for old Giant Growth. Oh, Giant Growth, I really miss that big rat.
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    ...and wouldn't black be Dark Ritual the fuel for combo decks from the beginning of time? Followed by a healthy nod to Thoughtseize?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Froggy View Post
    What are the best 1 mana spells that represent their color the most?
    Green: ??
    DRS or Glimpse of Nature if you play elves.

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    Re: Color Question Related to Legacy

    Black: Thoughtseize / Dark Ritual
    Blue: Brainstorm
    Red: Lightning Bolt
    Green: Green Sun's Zenith (there are no other relevant CMC1 Spells in Green, which get played in more than one archetype)
    White: Swords to Plowshares

    I see it like this: People playing the color will most likely be playing the following spell (regardless of archetype): XXX

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    Quote Originally Posted by JanoschEausH View Post
    Black: Thoughtseize / Dark Ritual
    Blue: Brainstorm
    Red: Lightning Bolt
    Green: Green Sun's Zenith (there are no other relevant CMC1 Spells in Green, which get played in more than one archetype)
    White: Swords to Plowshares

    I see it like this: People playing the color will most likely be playing the following spell (regardless of archetype): XXX
    blue : brainstorm
    black : dark ritual
    white : swords to plowshare
    red : lightning bolt
    green : llanowar elf

    and for the "all time" version, I would just have switched bs for ancestral recall and that's all (only at 1 cmc as well)

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    Re: Color Question Related to Legacy

    I would personally say
    White: Swords to Plowshares
    Blue: Brainstorm
    Black: Thoughtseize
    Red: Lightning Bolt
    Green: Green Sun's Zenith

    Thoughtseize sees more play in more decks than Dark Ritual which is more iconic, just not as widely played.
    Green Sun's Zenith is in most decks with green if it's getting Dryad Arbor, Scavenging Ooze, KotR, Thrun, doesn't matter, sees more play and it's only green unlike Deathrite Shaman, hence why it beat the Shaman.
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    The problem with saying Green's ubiquitous one-drop is Green Sun's Zenith, though, is that it only works with Green creatures. Presumably, one would not 'splash' for GSZ; unlike spells such as Brainstorm or Thoughtseize, it is not as commonly applicable.

    I was being facetious when I said Noble Hierarch - but if I could only choose one Green spell to go into my deck, and if I had to make the false choice between Zenith and Hierarch I would always choose Hierarch.

    To this end, I am not positive that a Green spell exists that is on par with StP/Bolt/Brainstorm/(Thoughtseize or Dark Ritual). Like, I doubt someone would ever look at a Jund list and go "Hmm, needs more Hierarch."
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    There's no love for Nimble Mongoose I guess... even tho he's probably the most used green card over Legacy history...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Froggy View Post
    I don't really see GSZ as Green per se... Giant Growth I can agree to, though.
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    Green Suns Zenith which costs XGreen to search out Green creatures is not green"per se"

    Altough I think GSZ would be the best fit for this role there is something missing.
    I would also not consider a creature for a "cycle" with swords, thoughtseize, brainstorm and bolt.
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    Re: Color Question Related to Legacy

    Wild nacatl was a strong 1 mana green dropp for a very long time. At least until delver the flying wild nacatl.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rizso View Post
    Wild nacatl was a strong 1 mana green dropp for a very long time. At least until delver the flying wild nacatl.
    Right, but it's not nearly as universally applicable as something like Swords to Plowshares, Brainstorm or even Lightning Bolt. Obviously would be terrible in a Green deck with no Plains/Mountains to + the power. All the best Green cards seem to have a huge number of dependencies, or are hybrid.
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    you asked which cards represent their color best and its simple. There was a set called alpha and each color got its 1 CMC card that 3 of something.

    Black: dark ritual (raw power, speed)
    Blue: ancestral recall (card draw)
    Red: Lightning Bolt (direct damage)
    White: healing salve (protection, life gain, survival)
    Green: giant growth (combat tricks, big creatures, brute strength)

    these are not the BEST cards not the most played. HOWEVER, these cards and mechanics are what WOTC built the colors on.


    If you want the most played cards of each color

    Black: thought seize
    Blue: brainstorm
    Red: Lightning Bolt
    White: Swords to plowshares
    Green: Noble hiearch (although birds of paradise is close second...there is a reason its been reprinted so many times)
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    Quote Originally Posted by apple713 View Post
    you asked which cards represent their color best and its simple. There was a set called alpha and each color got its 1 CMC card that 3 of something.

    Black: dark ritual (raw power, speed)
    Blue: ancestral recall (card draw)
    Red: Lightning Bolt (direct damage)
    White: healing salve (protection, life gain, survival)
    Green: giant growth (combat tricks, big creatures, brute strength)

    these are not the BEST cards not the most played. HOWEVER, these cards and mechanics are what WOTC built the colors on.

    If you want the most played cards of each color

    Black: thought seize
    Blue: brainstorm
    Red: Lightning Bolt
    White: Swords to plowshares
    Green: Noble hiearch (although birds of paradise is close second...there is a reason its been reprinted so many times)
    I thought of Alpha and what not, but I agree with the cards you mentioned.
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    Re: Color Question Related to Legacy

    1st: Wild Nacatl (I'm ashamed with all of you)
    2nd: Deathrite Shaman
    3rd: Noble Hierarch


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