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    [EDH] Uril, the Aggrostalker

    Oh lookie. The easiest way to kill this guy without wiping the board (clone effects) just got axed by the rules change. Time for a deck revisit??

    There are many variants on Uril decks. This one is designed for either 1v1 or multiplayer and has the primary gameplan or BEATFACE WITH REALLY HARD-TO-KILL COMMANDER. In case you didn't notice, he wears an enchanted suit of armor that says "TURN ME SIDEWAYS DUDE".

    I'm looking for suggestions on cards that will advance this specific game plan. Any ideas?


    Here is the general strategy:
    Step 1 : Ramp to 5 mana as fast as possible
    Step 2: Cast Uril as soon as possible (waiting for protection if expecting resistance)
    Step 3: Enchant Uril with something that grants evasion/trample. Turn sideways. Make him as hard to kill as possible.
    Step 4: ROAR
    Step 5: WHEN (not if) Uril gets killed, have gas to cast him and another aura again. Rinse and repeat.

    The rest of the deck is just support and utility for the primary gameplan. If someone casts Runed Halo or Declaration of Naught naming Uril, well screw them. This is EDH and that shouldn't happen.

    Because the critical mana number is 5, ramp spells that help you get to 5 are good (Cultivate, Kodama's Reach) and spells like Explosive Vegetation and Skyshroud Claim are a tad awkward. Ramp is ideally played on turns 2-3, especially in 1v1 where a turn 4 Uril might not die.

    I rationalized card choices by thinking about what the opponents might do to stop him, since he has a giant target on his back. The most common way to kill Uril is wrath effects. That's why Totem Armor is amazing. I am running pretty much every playable Totem Armor for maximum wrath protection. Mass tuck effects (Hallowed Burial, Terminus) are possible, so there are multiple ways to tutor him out of your library (Eladamri's Call, GSZ, Chord of Calling).

    Also, because opponents are going to wrath you eagerly, you don't want to get 4-for-1'd. So the objective is just to drop 1-2 auras and go to town. I have intentionally left out auras that make you overcommit (Ancestral Mask, Daybreak Coronet, Ethereal Armor) since they just encourage you to walk into card disadvantage. Auras that return like Rancor, Moldervine Cloak and Angelic Destiny are ideal.

    The next easiest way to stop Uril is to chump block him. A chump block is a full timewalk against you. Getting Time Walked is bad. So auras that grant evasion/trample (Serra's Embrace, Runes of the Deus, Madcap Skills) are good. Because you don't want to commit too many auras at a time, I am avoiding auras that just add vanilla pump but do not grant evasion or protection (Ancestral Mask, Empyrial Armor). They get chump blocked by 0/1 plants all day and encourage you to overcommit auras on Uril. Uril is beefy enough on his own. He will win games on his own. He doesn't need generic fat. He needs to survive and connect.

    Totem Armor and/or evasion deal with most answers to Uril, but he can still eat sacrifice effects or counterspells. So I have included a tutorable suite of protection against these:

    Tajuru Preserver
    Vexing Shusher
    Leyline of Lifeforce


    So now there are ways to ensure Uril is hard to deal with. But there are always crazy tricks opponents can pull. So the very last line of defense, if you ever manage to untap with an evasive Uril, is to simply stop opponents from casting spells:

    City of Solitude
    Defense Grid
    Price of Glory
    Ruination
    Realm Razer


    In particular, there is this MONSTROSITY of a card that is pretty much custom-designed for Uril decks: Cataclysm. Sweet jesus. This does everything you could possibly want a card to do. You keep Uril + evasive aura + land + artifact mana. Opponents keep one irrelevant fatty and 1-3 other irrelevant cards. Game over. Razia's Purification is similarly brutal. You can also use Austere Command to wipe away small utility creatures and artifacts while leaving Uril and his aura untouched. Precision is key!

    So with that gameplan in mind, I'm looking for tools to fine tune the deck. Here's what I've got so far.


    //Commander
    Uril, the Miststalker

    //Totem Armor: 6
    Hyena Umbra
    Spider Umbra
    Eland Umbra
    Boar Umbra
    Snake Umbra
    Bear Umbra

    //Other Auras: 10
    Rancor
    Madcap Skills
    Angelic Destiny
    Shield of the Oversoul
    Armadillo Cloak
    Unflinching Courage
    Runes of the Deus
    Gaea's Embrace
    Serra's Embrace
    Shiv's Embrace
    Holy Mantle

    //Haste: 2
    Fires of Yavimaya
    Dragon Breath

    //Tutor/Draw: 12
    Enlightened Tutor
    Gamble
    Worldly Tutor
    Eladamri's Call
    Sterling Grove
    Idyllic Tutor
    Academy Rector
    Green Sun's Zenith
    Chord of Calling
    Sylvan Library
    Argothian Enchantress
    Enchantresses' Presence

    //Defense: 5
    City of Solitude
    Defense Grid
    Price of Glory
    Ghostly Prison
    Smoke

    //Ramp: 11
    Farseek
    Nature's Lore
    Trace of Abundance
    Three Visits
    Gruul Signet
    Boros Signet
    Selesnya Signet
    Cultivate
    Kodama's Reach
    Darksteel Ingot
    Coalition Relic

    //Removal: 9
    Condemn
    Soul Snare
    Temporal Isolation
    Hull Breach
    Oblation
    Chaos Warp
    Oblivion Ring
    Faith's Fetters
    Austere Command

    //Isolate: 4
    Cataclysm
    Razia's Purification
    Divine Reckoning
    Realm Razer

    //Other: 3
    Eternal Witness
    Tajuru Preserver
    Vexing Shusher

    //Lands: 37
    Cavern of Souls
    Command Tower
    Rogue's Passage
    Yavimaya Hollow
    Homeward Path
    Gruul Turf
    Selesnya Sanctuary
    Boros Garrison
    Taiga
    Plateau
    Savannah
    Stomping Ground
    Sacred Foundry
    Temple Garden
    Arid Mesa
    Windswept Heath
    Wooded Foothills
    Bloodstained Mire
    Scalding Tarn
    Verdant Catacombs
    Misty Rainforest
    Marsh Flats
    Flooded Strand
    Krosan Verge
    Fire-Lit Thicket
    Wooded Bastion
    Rugged Prairie
    Rootbound Crag
    Sunpetal Grove
    3 Forest
    3 Plains
    2 Mountain

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    Re: [EDH] Uril, the Aggrostalker

    Quote Originally Posted by FTW View Post
    Auras that return like Rancor, Moldervine Cloak and Angelic Destiny are ideal.
    Rancor and Angelic Destiny do not return to your hand if you put Uril into the command zone after he dies. Never hits the graveyard to activate the recursion effects.

    A few lands you might think about adding include Inkmoth Nexus, Kessig Wolf Run, Mosswort Bridge and Spinerock Knoll. Inkmoth+Kessig is always a nice kill out of nowhere and Mossword and Spinerock mean free spells and who doesn't like free spells?

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    Re: [EDH] Uril, the Aggrostalker

    This deck could use more artifact ramp and more Armageddons.

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    Re: [EDH] Uril, the Aggrostalker

    More 'Geddon effects are damn near mandatory Catastrophe, Armageddon, Decree of Annihilation etc. are pretty sweet. R/W have quite a few to choose from.
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    Re: [EDH] Uril, the Aggrostalker

    Thanks for suggestions guys. I'm going to experiment with more Geddons and more artifact mana, less land ramp. Avoiding Sol Ring and friends to keep this list legal for either 1v1 or multiplayer, though it would be easy to swap them in for some of the slower ramp.

    Rancor does return. It checks whether Rancor goes to the graveyard, not the creature. Destiny doesn't though. Forgot it checks the creature.

    Just realized Dragon Breath triggers off 6 not 5, so it's a dead card.

    I'm going to avoid Mosswort and Spinerock since if you already have and are connecting with a big Uril, you're already winning. The only spells you would need to cheat out are Armageddon/Cataclysm effects or protection, and you're not going to reliably get those hidden away. More likely it will be some irrelevant ramp or Aura. Avoiding Inkmoth since it goes against the Armageddon plan. If you have that many lands, just recast Uril or sandbag some instead of dumping all your mana into a targettable creature.

    Out:

    Dragon Breath
    Madcap Skills
    Gamble
    Chord of Calling
    Kodama's Reach
    Cultivate
    Faith's Fetters
    Plains
    Forest


    In:

    Chrome Mox
    Mox Diamond
    Spirit Mantle
    Unquestioned Authority
    Time of Need
    Kessig Wolf Run
    Flagstones of Trokair
    Armageddon
    Ravages of War


    Considering, but might be too slow and better in a Uril control deck:

    Sigarda, Host of Herons
    Three Dreams
    Retether
    Flickerform
    Legion's Initiative
    Contested Cliffs


    Might be useful, or might just eat a ton of removal that is otherwise weak against you:

    Grand Abolisher
    Spellbreaker Behemoth
    Silverblade Paladin
    Ajani, Caller of the Pride

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    Re: [EDH] Uril, the Aggrostalker

    Moxen are bad because they are card disadvantage.
    I have an Uril deck too, and I play ramp of 1-2 CMC, because I plan to play Uril turn 3.
    Turn 1 ramp, turn 2 ramp, turn 3 Uril, turn 4 enchant and attack.

    My CMC1 ramp stuff:
    - Llanowar Elves
    - Fyndhorn Elves
    - Boreal Druid
    - Avacyn's Pilgrim
    - Birds of Paradise
    - Search for Tomorrow
    - Tinder Wall
    - Wild Growth
    - Utopia Sprawl
    - Green Sun's Zenith -> Dryad Arbor (if not banned already, haven't checked in a while ) /10

    My CMC2 ramp stuff:
    - Selesnya Signet
    - Boros Signet
    - Gruul Signet
    - Rampant Growth
    - Devoted Druid
    - Wall of Roots
    - Nature's Lore
    - Farseek /8
    So as you noticed I play more ramp stuff.

    There's also some interesting aura's to still consider:
    - Asha's Favor
    - Flickering Ward
    (and maybe also:)
    - Griffin Guide
    - Nimbus Wings
    - Call to Serve

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    Re: [EDH] Uril, the Aggrostalker

    Hmm. You're right. I shouldn't be wasting turn 1 when I could be ramping. Mana Elves don't even help with colors and seems vulnerable, since they are going to eat Wrath (which Uril will draw out anyway... and then make it harder to recast him afterwards) but I like the other stuff. What I liked about the Moxen were that they survived Armageddons.

    Adding:

    Search for Tomorrow
    Wild Growth
    Utopia Sprawl
    Dryad Arbor
    Rampant Growth
    Wall of Roots
    Nimbus Wings
    Call to Serve


    Cutting:

    Mox Diamond
    Chrome Mox
    Gaea's Embrace
    Serra's Embrace
    Condemn
    Chaos Warp
    Coalition Relic
    Fire-Lit Thicket

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    Re: [EDH] Uril, the Aggrostalker

    You should be trying to cast Uril, the Miststalker on turn three. If a ramp spell can't do that, you probably should consider cutting it.

    Ramp that lets you cast Uril on turn three:

    Mana Crypt
    Sol Ring
    Mana Vault
    Grim Monolith
    Joraga Treespeaker
    Carpet of Flowers

    Early on, I usually tutor for one of these if I can.

    My list is going to be a little different than yours. There are almost no wraths in my playgroup, so I don't run a lot of totem armor. I haven't found enchantress effects to be that great because they only drew me one or two cards at the most per game. Extra combat phase cards are the nuts in this deck, greatly increasing your ability to kill multiple players and survive in larger playgroups.

    Uril, the Miststalker

    Lands (34)

    Taiga
    Plateau
    Savannah
    Stomping Ground
    Temple Garden
    Sacred Foundry
    Wooded Foothills
    Windswept Heath
    Arid Mesa
    Bloodstained Mire
    Scalding Tarn
    Marsh Flats
    Flooded Strand
    Verdant Catacombs
    Misty Rainforest
    Rootbound Crag
    Sunpetal Grove
    Clifftop Retreat
    Horizon Canopy
    Serra's Sanctum
    City of Brass
    Reflecting Pool
    Command Tower
    Exotic Orchard
    Ancient Tomb
    Cavern of Souls
    Dryad Arbor
    Fire-Lit Thicket
    Rugged Prairie
    Wooded Bastion
    Forest
    Mountain
    Plains

    Acceleration: (9)

    Mana Crypt
    Sol Ring
    Mana Vault
    Grim Monolith
    Carpet of Flowers
    Joraga Treespeaker
    Bloom Tender
    Cultivate
    Kodama's Reach

    Card Draw: (4)

    Sylvan Library
    Hunter's Insight
    Soul's Majesty
    Garruk, Primal Hunter

    Tutors: (10)

    Gamble
    Enlightened Tutor
    Worldly Tutor
    Sylvan Tutor
    Green Sun's Zenith
    Eladamri's Call
    Sterling Grove
    Idyllic Tutor
    Academy Rector
    Three Dreams

    Mass Land Destruction/Board Sweepers: (5)

    Armageddon
    Ravages of War
    Thoughts of Ruin
    Cataclysm
    Winds of Rath

    Combo Kill (3)

    Bear Umbra
    Nature's Will
    Aggravated Assault

    Auras/Uril Pumps/Obscure P3K Sorceries: (19)

    Ancestral Mask
    Angelic Destiny
    Armadillo Cloak
    Battle Mastery
    Scourge of the Nobilis
    Daybreak Coronet
    Rancor
    Runes of the Deus
    Silverblade Paladin
    Shield of the Oversoul
    Spirit Mantle
    Unquestioned Authority
    Volcanic Strength
    Vow of Wildness
    Cave Sense
    Burrowing
    Holy Mantle
    Flickerform
    Riding the Dilu Horse

    Removal: (6)

    Oblivion Ring
    Swords to Plowshares
    Path to Exile
    Condemn
    Chaos Warp
    Oblation

    Extra Combat Phases: (6)

    Seize the Day
    Aurelia, the Warleader
    Relentless Assault
    Savage Beating
    Waves of Aggression
    World at War

    Other: (2)

    Aven Mindcensor
    Stranglehold
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    Re: [EDH] Uril, the Aggrostalker

    Nice list! Yeah I was trying to respect the 1v1 banned list (no Sol Ring, Mana Crypt, Mana Vault or Grim Monolith). If I wanted to swap slots out for multiplayer to run the un-fun broken artifact ramp, I would probably just run Mana Crypt and Sol Ring, since Vault and Monolith become a liability after the first use, are awkward post-Geddon, and you don't need 3 colorless to cast Uril at first so a turn 1-2 Vault/Monolith doesn't seem that useful for turn 3 Uril.

    My playgroup tends to have at least 2 people playing Goodstuff.dec (BUG, Junk, etc.) with lots of answer cards. And people play a lot of mass removal. By mid game the board gets wiped roughly every second turn, because with any more than 2 turns around the table someone is doing something degenerate. Rith the Awakener could have 20 tokens ready to Overrun. Or Karador could evoke Reveillark returning Corpse Connoisseur (searching Eternal Witness) and Karmic Guide returning Sun Titan returning Eternal Witness returning Lark to hand. Or Jhoira could be recast from the command zone and suspend an Eldrazi and Obliterate. Or something crazy like that. This is EDH after all!

    For that reason, I think extra combat steps and the vanilla pumps are just win-more in my group. If you try to do more than stick and protect a threat, someone will usually punish you for overcommitting. My goal is to not get too "cute" throwing things on Uril and to just cheaply put out an evasive/protected Uril, then lock the opponents out of the game. But you're right, I need quicker ramp.

    For multiplayer, I like:
    Sol Ring
    Mana Crypt
    Carpet of Flowers

    I could board those in for something.

    You're right, the enchantress effects are too slow. I ran them in my Uril-chantress control but they just don't do enough in an aggressive/disruptive deck.


    New list:


    //Commander
    Uril, the Miststalker

    //Totem Armor: 5
    Hyena Umbra
    Spider Umbra
    Eland Umbra
    Snake Umbra
    Bear Umbra

    //Other Auras: 9
    Rancor
    Spirit Mantle
    Unquestioned Authority
    Nimbus Wings
    Shield of the Oversoul
    Armadillo Cloak
    Unflinching Courage
    Runes of the Deus
    Holy Mantle

    //Haste: 2
    Fires of Yavimaya
    Racecourse Fury

    //Tutor/Draw: 11
    Enlightened Tutor
    Gamble
    Worldly Tutor
    Sylvan Tutor
    Eladamri's Call
    Time of Need
    Sterling Grove
    Idyllic Tutor
    Academy Rector
    Green Sun's Zenith
    Sylvan Library

    //Defense: 5
    City of Solitude
    Defense Grid
    Price of Glory
    Smoke
    Stranglehold

    //Fast Ramp: 14
    Search for Tomorrow
    Utopia Sprawl
    Wild Growth
    Birds of Paradise
    Arbor Elf
    Farseek
    Nature's Lore
    Rampant Growth
    Trace of Abundance
    Three Visits
    Gruul Signet
    Boros Signet
    Selesnya Signet
    Darksteel Ingot

    //Removal: 7
    Condemn
    Swords to Plowshares
    Temporal Isolation
    Hull Breach
    Oblation
    Chaos Warp
    Oblivion Ring

    //Isolate: 8
    Cataclysm
    Razia's Purification
    Divine Reckoning
    Realm Razer
    Winds of Rath
    Armageddon
    Ravages of War
    Ruination

    //Other: 4
    Eternal Witness
    Tajuru Preserver
    Grand Abolisher
    Vexing Shusher

    //Lands: 34
    Cavern of Souls
    Command Tower
    Rogue's Passage
    Kessig Wolf Run
    Yavimaya Hollow
    Homeward Path
    Gruul Turf
    Selesnya Sanctuary
    Boros Garrison
    Taiga
    Plateau
    Savannah
    Stomping Ground
    Sacred Foundry
    Temple Garden
    Arid Mesa
    Windswept Heath
    Wooded Foothills
    Bloodstained Mire
    Scalding Tarn
    Verdant Catacombs
    Misty Rainforest
    Marsh Flats
    Flooded Strand
    Fire-Lit Thicket
    Wooded Bastion
    Rugged Prairie
    Rootbound Crag
    Sunpetal Grove
    2 Forest
    2 Plains
    1 Mountain

    If I was to run any extra combat step effects, I would probably first add Aggravated Assault and Sword of Feast and Famine for the infinite combo (also works with Bear Umbra, but the extra chance to untap is nice). Flickerform is also pretty tempting in my meta. For multiplayer, I would probably cut 2 mana dorks for the 2 mana artifacts and maybe a spot removal for Flickerform.

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    Re: [EDH] Uril, the Aggrostalker

    Yeah I play in a group where we have banned Sol Ring and Mana Crypt as well.
    They are just not fun to play with. Whoever gets them first wins.

    Small note: Uril is never a multiplayer deck. I tried it. It doesn't work.
    You focus on killing one guy, not multiple guys. You will just lose to counters/mass removal.
    What I used to do is throw a dice to decide who I would be killing and hope that guy would die before me.

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