That's mostly the reason I was willing to let the topic just fade away. Because it offers no real tangible benefits over the Magical Christmas Land idea of setting up the perfect lock that only really serves to eat up better used slots. It would not have taken long for that to be worked out without any external input.
That Stasis deck looks like "Hm, how can I tick Lemnear off... OH NOW I KNOW, THIS IS BRILLIANT". Still, testing completely crazy things should be done every now and then, environments and decks change over time.
Originally Posted by Lemnear
I'm with you, but the point is that the testing of the idea was not done aka before anyone had any idea of if the tech even makes sense, there was discussion about the list and secondary card choices which is strange.
Edit: for me that idea reads like MB Dark Confidant in TES ;D
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What do you think about using Pattern of Rebirth for masive removal as golgary charm or toxic deluge?
The charm is an instant, which means they can kill your creatures as a response to you casting it (as can any spotremoval). In this case you rather just feed your creature to NO for Progenitus and laugh at the charm rather then try to Pattern your creature.
The Deluge is a sorcery, so you don't have that problem there. But again - the decks playing that card will have spotremoval. If you want to keep something after a sweeper, go for the Packmaster.
Also, it doesn't help us one bit against Terminus where the Packmaster does.
Yeah NO and Packmaster are just way better. Besides, casting Pattern is expensive. For it to be really good you want a Carrion Feeder or Nantuko Husk or the like on the board, and at that point we're playing a different deck entirely, one that looks a lot more like Junk or Nic Fit than Elves. (Which in the current meta may not be a bad thing at all)
Originally Posted by Lemnear
I do still have a casual deck running StP, Cabal Therapy, Pernicious Deed, and Summoner's Egg with Fierce Empaths instead of Pattern. It also makes Diabolic Intent pretty good. And Bloodthrone Vampire makes Symbiotic Wurm incredibly funny from time to time. But that deck hasn't got anything to do with this . Would be funny as hell to take it to a local Legacy tournament some time.
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Dedicating 2 SB slots to Miracles ( Besides Null Rod/ Pithing needle which are already there)
Torn between:
2x WRP
2x Xenagos
2x Choke
2x Bitterblossom.
Rest of SB is 3x Thoughtsieze 3x Cabal Therapy, 3x Abrupt Decay, NO, PRO, Needle, Null Rod.
Was experimenting with Swan Song lately, in Storm or Sneak metas, I have like it a lot
2 WRP is too much IMO. I like Blossom myself, it's a reallys weet card. Cheap, provides constant pressure.
Originally Posted by Lemnear
WRP is not something you sideboard as it's impact is too little. It's just an overall good card that helps a lot in the grindy matchups. To me, Miracle is not a grindy matchup but one that is decided by strategic superiority. WRP doesn't help much with that, but Bitterblossom and Pithing Needle do.
The seven cardinal sins of Legacy:
1. Discuss the unbanning ofLand TaxEarthcraft.
2. Argue that banning Force of Will would make the format healthier.
3. Play Brainstorm without Fetchlands.
4. Stifle Standstill.
5. Think that Gaea's Blessing will make you Solidarity-proof.
6. Pass priority after playing Infernal Tutor.
7. Fail to playtest against Nourishing Lich (coZ iT wIlL gEt U!).
Blossom makes their EEs really awkward which is ace. Do they wrath your tokens, your 1-drops or the Blossom. Basically every choice is painful. Killing Blossom does nothing to your board presence, while nuking dudes just leaves Blossom to make new ones and supercharge any Cradle you have on board. It's so nice to be able to cast big Zeniths basically on the back of Bitterblossom.
Because of the above Iif you run Blossom you should probably run Needle instead of Null Rod, IMO. Null Rod is good because it shuts down both Top AND EE for your dudes, but Blossom already does work in that department and Needle is useful in other hard matchups like Show and Tell, and can attack Jace Brainstorms => Terminus back into deck type lines.
Originally Posted by Lemnear
What was your reasoning for going against Elves?
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