Which cards give control decks the most trouble?

[apple713]

So I was brainstorming cards for a hate based deck and I came up with the following but blanked completly on Control based decks

Aggro

moat
peacekeeper
ensnaring bridge
meekstone


Combo

ethersworn cannonist
meddling mage
Leyline of sanctity
counterbalance



Miscellaneous

magus of the moon
Blood moon
rest in peace


Control / Tempo
...


Anyone know what single cards really give control a really hard time? The list just happens to randomly be mostly white / blue cards but i'll take any card that gives control decks a really hard time. what cards can control decks do very little about or have little interaction with?





Suggested

Cavern of souls
aether vial
abrupt decay
Punishing Fire
Winter orb
Suppression field
Thalia
liliana of the veil
armageddon
Jace, the mind sculptor
gaddock teeg
thrun
elspeth, knight-errant
geist of saint traft
vendilion clique
Bitterblossom
Umezawa's jitte
Teferi, Mage of Zhalfir
choke
sulfuric vortex
chains of mephistopheles
lingering souls
mother of runes
nimble mongoose
decree of justice


Keep the ideas coming

[Norm]

Aether Vial is a good one, stax effects, targeted discard, etc...

[DragoFireheart]

Aether Vial
Cavern of Souls
Abrupt Decay
Goblin Ringleader
Nimble Mongoose

[death]

I've played only Ub-g control and from experience goblins, GY decks and ANT/PiF have been difficult matchups.

[DragoFireheart]

I've played only Ub-g control

ANT/PiF have been difficult matchups.

What? Clarify.

[DLifshitz]

Abrupt Decay
Punishing Fire
mana denial
Lingering Souls
Slaughter Games
Sylvan Library
Chains of Mephistopheles

[nedleeds]

Armageddon
City of Solitude
Choke
Boil
Thrun, the Last Troll
Gaddock Teeg
Cataclysm

[apple713]

Aether Vial is a good one, stax effects, targeted discard, etc...

dont want to add stax effects just cause it'll hurt me too. things like chalice on 1 or trinishphere. Chalice effect are mainly good with sol lands but outside of that not so awesome. Aether vial is good. added to te list

Aether Vial
Cavern of Souls
Abrupt Decay
Goblin Ringleader
Nimble Mongoose

added some things from here too

Abrupt Decay
Punishing Fire
mana denial
Lingering Souls
Slaughter Games
Sylvan Library
Chains of Mephistopheles

I'm getting the idea that maybe stopping them isnt necessarily the way to go about it but rather gain card advantage over them?

[alphastryk]

Winter Orb, Supression Field, Tsunami, Boiling Seas, Ravages of War, Thalia, Liliana of the Veil

[apple713]

Winter Orb, Supression Field, Tsunami, Boiling Seas, Ravages of War, Thalia, Liliana of the Veil

excellent, I dont know how i could have forgotten liliana.



also, if yall have suggestions for the other secions that would be greatly appreciated as well.

[Bed Decks Palyer]

I think that due to the nature of control, it is not easy to stop the strategy. Also: they have answers, and thus it's even more hard to hurt them.
Imho it's good to mix approaches: Vial+Thalia+Geddon, Vial+Waste+Lackey, Waste+Deathrite+Duress, Chains of Mephistophle+Hymn+Sinkhole, Bloodghast+Pox+Lftl.

EDIT: When it comes to U/x Control, some of the World Enchantments are pretty powerful: Nether Void, In the Eye of Chaos, City of Solitude...

[jamis]

Against control, you either want to swarm them with too many threats or you want to go bigger than them. If you can cast it, Karn Liberated will single-handedly take over a grindy control mirror.

[Shawon]

As an Affinity player, my best weapon against control is hands-down Tezzeret, Agent of Bolas. Tangle Wire is also good.

[Esper3k]

Control decks tend to be focused primarily on dealing with creatures, so permanents such as Jace, Elspeth, Chalice of the Void can be difficult for them to answer.

Hexproof creatures (Thrun, Geist) and flash / disruptive ones (Vendilion Clique, Gaddock Teeg, Thalia, Mother of Runes) can be problematic for them as well.

[apple713]

Control decks tend to be focused primarily on dealing with creatures, so permanents such as Jace, Elspeth, Chalice of the Void can be difficult for them to answer.

Hexproof creatures (Thrun, Geist) and flash / disruptive ones (Vendilion Clique, Gaddock Teeg, Thalia, Mother of Runes) can be problematic for them as well.

I think your right regarding the permanents. I feel like Liliana is the best cause it destroys both their hand and the few creatures they run.. That is if you can land one.

Thurn is good on its own cause it doesnt rely on aether vial to be flashed into play

I feel as though the deck may be leaning towards the aether vial route since it's running mainly 1 2 and 3 drop creatures.

Not a huge fan of teeg cause it keeps me off moat, but it keeps control off jace, terminus, force, EE. Also, Meddling mage keeps them off Swords to plowshares along with mother.



I think these ideas are great guys. Are there more? Maybe i missed cards in the other sections?

[ajfennewald]

I haven't seen sulfuric vortex mentioned yet.

[ahg113]

I haven't seen sulfuric vortex mentioned yet.

As a tag-along, Pyrostatic Pillar. Anti-control (all the cantrips and non-FoW counterspells), and anti-combo.

[crow_mw]

I think these ideas are great guys. Are there more? Maybe i missed cards in the other sections?

Choke is traditionally a good hate card for control decks. Also depending on what wincons do you intend to run yourself and it hurts your own hatebears, but for many creature decks, as well as s'n't, reanimator, dredge and the likes landing a Humility is gg.

[apple713]

I haven't seen sulfuric vortex mentioned yet.

great card

As a tag-along, Pyrostatic Pillar. Anti-control (all the cantrips and non-FoW counterspells), and anti-combo.

more for storm combo i would imagine but i can see the application. Hurts my deck almost as much

Choke is traditionally a good hate card for control decks. Also depending on what wincons do you intend to run yourself and it hurts your own hatebears, but for many creature decks, as well as s'n't, reanimator, dredge and the likes landing a Humility is gg.

humility will probably end up in the SB

[Esper3k]

Teeg + SoLS = makes control decks cry.

City of Solitude is also a punch in the balls for them.