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    At a certain point you just have to acknowledge and remember that MTG is a game for losers, outsiders and people with other disorders (social or whatever) and that such an environment is naturally prone to deviant and insincere behaviour. This fact, next to the game's dependence on RNG is the reason why treating MTG too seriously or regarding it as legit "competition" is and has always been laughable if we were honest. I'm pretty sure that most of the so-called pros have some way or the other the shape the game's odds to their favor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erdvermampfa View Post
    At a certain point you just have to acknowledge and remember that MTG is a game for losers, outsiders and people with other disorders (social or whatever) and that such an environment is naturally prone to deviant and insincere behaviour. [...]
    If that's a serious statement, then it's by far one of the most stupid things I have ever read on the source.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Erdvermampfa View Post
    At a certain point you just have to acknowledge and remember that MTG is a game for losers, outsiders and people with other disorders (social or whatever) and that such an environment is naturally prone to deviant and insincere behaviour. This fact, next to the game's dependence on RNG is the reason why treating MTG too seriously or regarding it as legit "competition" is and has always been laughable if we were honest. I'm pretty sure that most of the so-called pros have some way or the other the shape the game's odds to their favor.
    A way to shape the odds of the game to your favour despite RNG? So you mean skill...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Humphrey View Post
    ok thanks, back to topic then.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/co...jq&sh=246f2acc

    alex got a warning for marked cards. considering his history its very likely not coincidence and that he is still not banned for life is kinda strange as well.

    also saito has some rumors going.
    The fact they'll ban people for life for spreading Internet drama or for non-Magic-related crimes committed about a decade ago but haven't done the same for serial cheaters like Alex Bertoncini (or Stephen Speck) is a complete joke.

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    The fact they'll ban people for life for spreading Internet drama or for non-Magic-related crimes committed about a decade ago but haven't done the same for serial cheaters like Alex Bertoncini (or Stephen Speck) is a complete joke.
    That I do agree with. I wonder how many times Alex needs a suspension before we stop doing this dance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Humphrey View Post
    source is basically this guy, but also the comments are somewhat enlightning.

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    So, this is my first post in over two years and I am only posting now to express my annoyance that I was tricked into watching a Jeremy Hambly video.

    He is most easily summed up as a less charismatic Alex Jones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iamajellydonut View Post
    So, this is my first post in over two years and I am only posting now to express my annoyance that I was tricked into watching a Jeremy Hambly video.

    He is most easily summed up as a less charismatic Alex Jones.
    Dude, seriously, you start that up again after the thread split and lock? You should have stayed away.

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    Jelly's not wrong though... there should be a 'douche-canoe' warning.

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    people shoud argue about WHAT people say, not who (or how)
    also i wasnt aware this guy is that "famous" considering his relatively low viewcount.
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    What you say is often second to WHY you say it. People with known agenda's who are the only voice in a conversation can be safely assumed to be pushing said agenda.
    It is better to ask and look stupid then keep your mouth shut and remain so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JDK View Post
    At this point it's too late
    He just needs to accept that he will never be welcome at tournaments and just move on to something else with his life

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    It's not forbidden for him to play. he just has to accept that everyone will be super cautious when playing against him, and that slopiness won't be accepted from him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tylert View Post
    It's not forbidden for him to play. he just has to accept that everyone will be super cautious when playing against him, and that slopiness won't be accepted from him.
    Yeah, ^this^

    I guess he came across as genuine. But I'm still going to assume he's intentionally cheating and not just being sloppy if he makes a mistake across the table from me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JDK View Post
    I am just reading the same "I didnt plan to cheat", "its just sloppy play" and other shit once again, like I did years ago.

    It would be less hilarious if he wasn't got caught pulling of more shit recently. Did he learn? Obviously not.

    He should have moved on long ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard Cheese View Post
    I've been taking shitty brews and tier 2 decks to tournaments and losing with them for years now. Welcome to the club. We meet for cocktails after round 6.
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    Feels genuine to me, maybe I'm just naive but I believe in second (and third, fourth, fifth etc) chances. I think the 'once a thief'-mentality to mostly be harmful.
    Also people enjoy to hate all to much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JosefK View Post
    Feels genuine to me, maybe I'm just naive but I believe in second (and third, fourth, fifth etc) chances. I think the 'once a thief'-mentality to mostly be harmful.
    Also people enjoy to hate all to much.
    Nothing he says feels genuine to me. Unless he said "I genuinely plan to win all my games by hook or by crook." there is nothing he can say that will fix this. He was a dick about it online after each banning, doing shit like changing his online profile picks to Explore. He laughed about his ill gotten gains and now he wants a 4th chance? No. He should have been permanently banned from the game. Others have gotten more for less.
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    One should also remember that though he for once actually admitted to cheating, he only confessed to the instances that were all obvious cases of cheating. There was no discussion of the constant angle-shooting, no discussion of “sloppy plays” with favorable outcome, no discussion of game losses for marked cards, and so on.

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    There's so much more to life than M:tG. If I were him, I would have moved on a long time ago. Although if I were him, I wouldn't have cheated in the first place, but whatever.

    I don't doubt that he wants to change his ways now. I just think it's a little too late for that at this point. His legacy will forever be that of a cheater.

    With that being said, the DCI has decided that he is allowed to play again, so he can play as much as he wants to until they decide to ban him again.
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