New Card Frame coming with M15

[prateta]

MaRo hoooooo!

If printed to demand, that changes the dynamics of the decks entirely. I doubt Wizards wants to tread too firmly on archetype pillars ('goyf, Lili 2.0, etc.), but I could imagine them gleefully setting prices for Tarn / Rainforest (and other ubiquitous staples) to $32ish through these.

I take this as a confirmation this precon is gonna be shitty.

[Bed Decks Palyer]

I take this as a confirmation this precon is gonna be shitty.

I guess it won't be, there's little sense to print stuff that no one will buy.
Moon, Tarn, Karn, Voice, Bob, Lili, SOFI, etc. USD 300, kthxbye...

[Mewens]

I take this as a confirmation this precon is gonna be shitty.

Precons be shitty. It's essentially a default quantum state for them, or something. The real question(s) be, "Is Wizards looking to set market prices? If so, for which cards?"

Alternatively, I'd accept "Why am I sticky?" or "'_____,' a Lifetime movie about ______."

[YamiJoey]

Precons be shitty. It's essentially a default quantum state for them, or something. The real question(s) be, "Is Wizards looking to set market prices? If so, for which cards?"

Alternatively, I'd accept "Why am I sticky?" or "'_____,' a Lifetime movie about ______."

'A lifetime of sadness' - 'My sex life'.

I'd like to see some fetches in here, and we may see stuff like filters.

Alternatively can we get a Canopy reprint? That card is getting out of hand for a card that basically only sees play in fun and kind of bad decks.

Alternatively 5-colour loam. One of each Fetchland, a Life from the Loam, and 69 kind of bad commons and uncommons. Deck sells out every week.

[Barook]

MaRo hoooooo!

If printed to demand, that changes the dynamics of the decks entirely. I doubt Wizards wants to tread too firmly on archetype pillars ('goyf, Lili 2.0, etc.), but I could imagine them gleefully setting prices for Tarn / Rainforest (and other ubiquitous staples) to $32ish through these.

They have realized how much money they can squeeze out of players with this. The original Commander and stuff were only testing the waters.

As I read it, we only get one Modern precon this time:

Event decks

So we're probably getting 10 rares? Just as an indicator for things to come. And unlike Commander 2013, a box doesn't contain 4/5 unwanted jank.

A standard Event deck costs 20$, this costs 75$ MSRP, probably even higher (depending on the content) in the beginning with LGS jacking up the prices. Wizards is going to make mad cash with his. It would be dumb to not print the crap out of this at such a high MSRP as long as people are willing to buy it.

[Stan]

Magic players who bitch about the prices of sealed product are like junkies who bitch about the prices their dealer charges them for cut ut dope. Nobody forces them to buy so much cardboard. Of course the stores will jack up the prices, no matter what's in the decks. It's kinda hard to feel sorry for the suckers who buy them and then get angry over having spent so much money.

They have realized how much money they can squeeze out of players with this. The original Commander and stuff were only testing the waters.

As I read it, we only get one Modern precon this time:

Event decks

So we're probably getting 10 rares? Just as an indicator for things to come. And unlike Commander 2013, a box doesn't contain 4/5 unwanted jank.

A standard Event deck costs 20$, this costs 75$ MSRP, probably even higher (depending on the content) in the beginning with LGS jacking up the prices. Wizards is going to make mad cash with his. It would be dumb to not print the crap out of this at such a high MSRP as long as people are willing to buy it.

[thecrav]

There is now a report (maybe reports by the time you click?) of the holo stamp on M15+ cards starting to flake: [link]

[iamajellydonut]

There is now a report (maybe reports by the time you click?) of the holo stamp on M15+ cards starting to flake: [link]

Quality.

[Ace/Homebrew]

Quality.

The card must be a chinese fake! That's the only way this makes sense.

[Bed Decks Palyer]

The real questions is what the heck happened to the corner of the rightmost card. Do you let your hamster gnaw on your Yavimaya Coasts or something?

[Wanderlust]

The real questions is what the heck happened to the corner of the rightmost card. Do you let your hamster gnaw on your Yavimaya Coasts or something?

Looks like the corner of the perfect fit is just curled up a bit.

[Barook]

That's actually bloody brilliant of Wizards: People not liking the new holo stamps? They're removing themselves over time! And if people like them, they have to suck it up anyway!

[Bed Decks Palyer]

Looks like the corner of the perfect fit is just curled up a bit.

I know, but I still love that quote.
Btw, making th cards with expiration dat was a devilish plan from WotC.

[rufus]

Quality.

I remember people talking about the quality of card stock declining with 5th Edition.

[apple713]

I remember people talking about the quality of card stock declining with 5th Edition.

what they should do is increase the quality of the stock and ink like it was back in beta, and charge like 20cents more.

[Begle1]

Magic players who bitch about the prices of sealed product are like junkies who bitch about the prices their dealer charges them for cut ut dope. Nobody forces them to buy so much cardboard. Of course the stores will jack up the prices, no matter what's in the decks. It's kinda hard to feel sorry for the suckers who buy them and then get angry over having spent so much money.

what they should do is increase the quality of the stock and ink like it was back in beta, and charge like 20cents more.

This really chaffs me too... I've come to accept that Wizards wants their cards to have a mystique that attracts newer players, by having costs that maintain older players. I think that's a fine-enough strategy. But come on guys, if you know you're printing cards that you want to retain high value for decades, there's no forgivable reason to ever pinch pennies when it comes to archival-quality ink and card stock. I'd feel a lot more comfortable posting $100 for a card if I knew it wasn't going to just fade away and disintegrate in 10 years.

[The Doctor]

But those gorgeous M15 frame Apocalypse pain lands had so much prestige :(