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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Seth View Post
    Doesn't mean it's coming this year. But if the fetchlands are the ones most likely to be reprinted as the article indicates, they're certainly coming within the next two years.
    i think everyone can wait in 2 years..even stifle will be reprinted

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    Quote Originally Posted by big_ticket View Post
    i think everyone can wait in 2 years..even stifle will be reprinted
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    Looks like the new batch has arrived in Brazil. His ML auction was already taken down:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5si8VZ9ISrs

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.C View Post
    Looks like the new batch has arrived in Brazil. His ML auction was already taken down:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5si8VZ9ISrs
    thanks for info was tracking his Asia shipments .. so he switched to South America .. hmm
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.C View Post
    Looks like the new batch has arrived in Brazil. His ML auction was already taken down:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5si8VZ9ISrs
    I don't speak Portuguese, but from the looks of it, those are pretty damned good. In a sleeve, you wouldn't notice the difference in coating.

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    I ordered 3 random cards of what is apparently the latest batch of fakes to hit our tormented market, from a New Zealand seller. This batch includes FBB German duals and the usual stuff like Tarmo, Lily, Jace and fetchlands. I will post photos and/or scans once they arrive.

    From his or her own photos, some but not all of those counterfeits appear to have a very thin upper border.

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    Hi guys,
    I just received 2 Portuguese Terminus I ordered some days ago.
    They looked fine but when I tried to double sleeve them they didn't fit. I compared them with regular ones and they were sightly bigger.
    It's dificult to get a photo but when you have them in front of you it's clear that they are bigger.
    Then I became paranoid and started to see ink marks in the portuguese ones, a different pattern in the printing and the cards look a bit thinner.
    The thing that really worries me it's the size, is that concluyent proof that they are fake? Or size may vary a little? Note than I compared them to english Terminus, not a Beta Lightning bolt. Same edition, just diferent lenguage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BVB09 View Post
    Hi guys,
    I just received 2 Portuguese Terminus I ordered some days ago.
    They looked fine but when I tried to double sleeve them they didn't fit. I compared them with regular ones and they were sightly bigger.
    It's dificult to get a photo but when you have them in front of you it's clear that they are bigger.
    Then I became paranoid and started to see ink marks in the portuguese ones, a different pattern in the printing and the cards look a bit thinner.
    The thing that really worries me it's the size, is that concluyent proof that they are fake? Or size may vary a little? Note than I compared them to english Terminus, not a Beta Lightning bolt. Same edition, just diferent lenguage.

    Thanks
    As far as I know, there are no fake Portuguese cards. Miscut, maybe?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.C View Post
    As far as I know, there are no fake Portuguese cards. Miscut, maybe?
    I haven't heard of them neither, but both Terminus have the same size, wouldn't be too much of a coincidence?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BVB09 View Post
    I haven't heard of them neither, but both Terminus have the same size, wouldn't be too much of a coincidence?
    remember guys that wizards use different printing company in different countries with cards of different languages.
    If we start freaking out on a 10 $ card i can see we have a problem.
    And the only people that gain advantage in this situation are big sellers like SGC which they have built client's trust.
    Now if a private seller (me, you!?) wants to sell his cards and make money out of it will be harder.

    I don't see this being a problem for legacy. People don t buy proxies because they are cheaper. People buy proxies because they cant afford legacy staples.
    And yes, guys, printing proxies is such a good business right now. I personally believe the effect on the market will be minimum unless somebody find a way to create perfect replica.

    The only way i feel we can buy with confidence is becoming skilled in detecting them( paper, colour, corners, pixels, weight)

    Cheers

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    http://22v.en.alibaba.com/product/94...ame_cards.html sell mtg proxys hd quality is back , I notified Wizards but would like some help meaning if you guys can glean info)\\


    about Portuguese Termius , its Delson new Brazilian supplier so if you could pm me photos ( I appreciate it)
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    It's obviously not that I'm worried about losing 5€ in 2 cards, come on.
    The reason for my post in first place was to ask if diferent size was concluyent proof, as everyone could check if they cards were fake by using Perfect size sleeves.
    And also to show that maybe believing only English cards will be fake may be wrong. Scammers are not silly, they probably read these threads.

    I made some photos but again it's much harder to see it in them.
    Also, the feeling of the card is just wrong. The size, the weight, the patterns... just by having it face to face you notice something is wrong. That's why I believe they are fakes but may be that all portugese cards are a bit diferent.

    The other Terminus is in Spanish. Sometimes English cards have better quality than foreign cards, so I used a Spanish one for the comparision.
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    I just met up with the guy that has the power 9 proxies from craigslist

    I got all power 9
    4 Mishra workshop
    4 bazaar

    for 45 bucks

    the quality is the same as delsons proxies

    his craigslist listing got taken down but he just received his next shipment of product so they are available
    ill post pics today

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    Quote Originally Posted by NefariousBTK View Post
    I just met up with the guy that has the power 9 proxies from craigslist

    I got all power 9
    4 Mishra workshop
    4 bazaar

    for 45 bucks

    the quality is the same as delsons proxies

    his craigslist listing got taken down but he just received his next shipment of product so they are available
    ill post pics today
    NefariousBTK , I highly suggest pming me and emailing Hasbro to avoid legal issuses
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    avoid legal issues? I highly doubt the cops are going to kick my door in for a couple pieces of cardboard that I am going to play on a kitchen table

    Why would I contact Hasbro? I don't owe them anything

    People should mind their own business and quit being narcs

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    Quote Originally Posted by NefariousBTK View Post
    avoid legal issues? I highly doubt the cops are going to kick my door in for a couple pieces of cardboard that I am going to play on a kitchen table

    Why would I contact Hasbro? I don't owe them anything

    People should mind their own business and quit being narcs
    I hate be an ass but I reported 90 folders with info on said supplier , emailed 5 RC's and Hasbro Fraud department and you tell me this.


    you know its a legal crime to own counterfeit in United states?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NefariousBTK View Post
    avoid legal issues? I highly doubt the cops are going to kick my door in for a couple pieces of cardboard that I am going to play on a kitchen table

    Why would I contact Hasbro? I don't owe them anything

    People should mind their own business and quit being narcs
    If you're in the US, there's a reasonable risk, yes.

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    anyway : I got info that Alibaba and starcityshop , Wizards Of Ghost ( yes they actually mimicked Wizards) is run by same people.


    Pics will be posted as soon as permitted ( 120 in all) , 5 Different TCG , including US distributors.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Russian Alara View Post
    I hate be an ass but I reported 90 folders with info on said supplier , emailed 5 RC's and Hasbro Fraud department and you tell me this.

    you know its a legal crime to own counterfeit in United states?
    Report any activity that is worth notice to WotC, anything else is fearmongering and subjection of state you're living in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barook View Post
    Report any activity that is worth notice to WotC, anything else is fearmongering and subjection of state you're living in.
    Hasbro is WOTC Barook
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