SCG and its not-as-lousy-as-WotC coverage

[pochy]

No Force - His hand was triple Hymn, double Shardless, land.

EDIT: well, that's what it looked like.

what?
wasn't he playing miracles? o.0
do i remember badly? (miracle vs reanimator in the match with Duke)

[lyracian]

what?
wasn't he playing miracles? o.0
do i remember badly? (miracle vs reanimator in the match with Duke)

He had Top and Entreat when he was Thoughtseized. Commentators said it was Miracles with a single Dig through Time.

[L0cke]

Part of joining Legacy is learning what things are called, just as newbies learn old interactions that are new to them, such as threshold or cumulative upkeep or, say, phasing. SCG has no compelling reason to retroactively rename years of Legacy decks, and the editorial overreaching is irritating to much of the Legacy community.

I thought they had already made the deck names newb friendly by calling them BUG Delver and RUG Delver instead of Team America and Canadian Threshold...This is a step further away from deck name simplicity. The names were descriptive, simple, and functional. This clan shit just obscures the information more!

[lyracian]

Not much coverage of the new cards on camera so far but it certainly seems to show Treasure Cruise as playable. The Omni-tell player shuffles his yard with Emrakul and next turn it is back to Land, Instant and Sorcery for Gofy letting the BUG Delver player eat his own yard.

[Namida]

I thought they had already made the deck names newb friendly by calling them BUG Delver and RUG Delver instead of Team America and Canadian Threshold...This is a step further away from deck name simplicity. The names were descriptive, simple, and functional. This clan shit just obscures the information more!

Wizards came up with some awful names that try more to sound super Asian than feel like they match any group of colors. I think people would care less about the renames if the new names didn't feel like bad translations. People are going to get used to them only because we're being forced to deal with them until at least the Khans block rotates; the issue is that it seems like the creative team didn't focus on picking some appropriate sounding names for the color groupings since the Khans block isn't about the wedges, and now we're stuck with the "exotic" choices they made instead; SCG is being forced to use whatever names Wizards ended up choosing if they really believe that using the new names helps new players.

[Bertrand Hustle]

Part of joining Legacy is learning what things are called, just as newbies learn old interactions that are new to them, such as threshold or cumulative upkeep or, say, phasing. SCG has no compelling reason to retroactively rename years of Legacy decks, and the editorial overreaching is irritating to much of the Legacy community.

This is how I want to feel but...

Wizards came up with some awful names that try more to sound super Asian than feel like they match any group of colors. I think people would care less about the renames if the new names didn't feel like bad translations. People are going to get used to them only because we're being forced to deal with them until at least the Khans block rotates; the issue is that it seems like the creative team didn't focus on picking some appropriate sounding names for the color groupings since the Khans block isn't about the wedges, and now we're stuck with the "exotic" choices they made instead; SCG is being forced to use whatever names Wizards ended up choosing if they really believe that using the new names helps new players.

I think this nails it as well. You know they probably sat down with their biggest distribs that do streams/host GPs and laid down the law. Annoying but you know basically Wizards is shoving this down our throats. Seeing how their 2 pet formats (Modern and Standard) are, you can extrapolate that they want to control stuff as much as possible with the game, its presentation, and the public's perception of that presentation.

[nedleeds]

The new names are retarded, but it's their stream ... they can call it Green Black Blue Tickle Me Elmo Delver if they want ...

[Bertrand Hustle]

The new names are retarded, but it's their stream ... they can call it Green Black Blue Tickle Me Elmo Delver if they want ...

For sure it's their stream. I'm still gonna bitch though. After all that's why we're in this thread.

[shrubs]

Setting aside sales and looking at principles, marketing the format for the average magic player seems odd. Legacy isn't for the 'average' two-season Standard player who started last year- the technical skill and knowledge required is far too high. Not that this is exclusionary, anyone, with the time and effort, can develop these skills, but it's not easily earned. Legacy as a format requires tremendous personal and communal effort and investment. It's not an overnight process to learn the format, rules and hone your technical play, nor is a decent deck built instantly, or a community created easily. Is this attitude elitism? I don't think so, we only expect from others what we expect from ourselves, which is quite a bit.

So forgive me if I find it irritating that I'm being forced into a marketing scheme designed to attract a group that may not care what an activated ability is, and more than likely won't playing Magic in a few months. Yes, we have to keep up interest and bring new players into the format, but renaming established decks with the most recent buzzwords isn't the way to do it.

But I digress. Like others have said, it's about WotC and sales. If somehow these clan names helps SCG sell a few more overpriced duals to the lowest common denominator, then it must be right.

[Barook]

And the BUG Delver player got a game loss (and thus lost the match) for "slow play" in the Top 8 due to a Liliana split.

[nedleeds]

Lol ... Moneyless dredge man doesn't even try to find black leyline and scoops. Thrilling matches, legacy is so interesting the miracles guy took the split and went home.

[Bertrand Hustle]

That was strange. Mann must have pissed off that same judge earlier in the day because that wasn't an unreasonable amount of time at all considering the situation.

Whenever I see slow play losses I get a bit suspicious, especially at larger events.

[Julian23]

For everyone who's not on Twitter:

Top4 at SCG Indy (no live coverage, unfortunately) has 4 Elves.

[Bertrand Hustle]

Shoutouts to Cockatrice

[whienot]

For everyone who's not on Twitter:

Top4 at SCG Indy (no live coverage, unfortunately) has 4 Elves.

Lol. That's pretty awesome.

[nedleeds]

So diversity.

[Scott]

Lol ... Moneyless dredge man doesn't even try to find black leyline and scoops.

And I thought money snobbery was just a thing in 80s high school movies.

[menace13]

The new names are retarded, but it's their stream ... they can call it Green Black Blue Tickle Me Elmo Delver if they want ...

I find it dismissive by SCG of the history and effort from the community to not call the deck what they were named by their creator(s). The people who made these decks had a hand in shaping the format and caring for it and its community without ever feeling the need to monetize Legacy and act like they lovingly and painstakingly nurtured it. They might as well just fucking say MarO made all the decks anyway so why give the community any acknowledgement.

[whienot]

Archetype:
Manaless Dedge

Why did you choose to play this deck this weekend?
I'm cheap. It's the only thing I can afford... and I like solitaire.

[aahz]

And I thought money snobbery was just a thing in 80s high school movies.

To be fair, some of us own all the cards to play whatever and still choose to play manaless dredge when we can't be bothered to think hard enough to play Enchantress.
Nedleeds just hates dredge and likes to see other people cry.