Banned and Restricted list update

[ahg113]

To be fair, there are a LOT of goblins that destroy artifacts already, including one that does the "comes into play" thing for GR

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[Lord Seth]

And many, many decks that currently get oppressed by the SnT decks (can't interact with the stack? you lose) would be able to come back out of the woodwork.

I've always found this claim to be a bit funny when Death & Taxes is one of the best decks in the format against Show and Tell

[Dice_Box]

Jund does not interact with the stack a whole lot. Manages to make you cry just fine on its own.

Also, this thread is the biggest shitfest I have seen in ages AND Pony is not here... come on guys.

[Zombie]

Show and tell is more like a3 mana ritual that makes 15 mana

And is a win con itself. If it was a ritual, you could let the ritual resolve and counter Griseltard or Omnidrool.

[TsumiBand]

I've always found this claim to be a bit funny when Death & Taxes is one of the best decks in the format against Show and Tell

Well, in fairness, making your opponent's spells cost more is *kind of* interacting with the stack. Ish. It makes the stack more hostile for your opponent, I guess? It's not the same, but it totally is.

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[TsumiBand]

DnT also has the benefit of subverting all the "poop a Legendary into play" stuff with Karakas, which honestly seems like a happy accident. Would Karakas ever have been tried if not for Mangara? I dunno if someone would have put it in on a whim unless it had already been good somewhere else.

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[Bed Decks Palyer]

DnT also has the benefit of subverting all the "poop a Legendary into play" stuff with Karakas, which honestly seems like a happy accident. Would Karakas ever have been tried if not for Mangara? I dunno if someone would have put it in on a whim unless it had already been good somewhere else.

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I planned to play three to four Karakases in a brew I brewed several years ago. It was in a time when card was in a 10-15 USD range, unfortunately our lgs had none of them. It was before I even started to tinker with an idea to tinker with ebay and such, and it did not took long and Karakas was a 900 crowns affair. That was when I decided to not bother myself anymore; about the time when DnT became known. Known, not big. Now when he land costs over two thousand... bah.
A little pity. I'd love to have several Karakases just like I still got eight Tombs. Edit: five only.

[FieryBalrog]

Remember when Wizards cared about Legacy? I don't either.

[Dice_Box]

Yea, I remember. Goblin Bidding was a deck at the time.

[TsumiBand]

Yea, I remember. Goblin Bidding was a deck at the time.

See, I like that deck better when it was Zombies. Noxious Ghoul in the bin, sucks to be you brah

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[Jerome]

It might just be the people I play against doing it wrong but Delver doesn't really bother me all that much. Then again, when you're running pox and small pox there's not much that does except artifacts and combo.

As a side note, the one thing I'd like to see unbanned is strip mine. Yes, i'm the kind of dick that enjoys blowing up land, and strip mine being legal would have the added bonus of bringing down the price of wasteland.

[Megadeus]

If you think Strip Mine should be unbanned then you should probably just delete your account.

[DragoFireheart]

As a side note, the one thing I'd like to see unbanned is strip mine.

This is without a doubt the worst post I have seen in the history of Magic: The Gathering. I've been looking for a reason to stop playing magic and this was enough to push me over the edge. I'm also considering never posting here again because what little faith I had in humanity was destroyed by this simple sentence.

[ahg113]

In defense of Jerome, who did make a silly* comment, LD could (in my opinion should) be pushed more than the nothing* it currently is. In a world where black and blue have disruption, red used to be up there as well (to a much lesser extent Green and Black). Blue counter, Black discard, Red land destruction. Those were all interference abilities, until it was decided that "un-fun" was a just reason to stop doing something (even though it's a weak argument today), and LD stopped being a pushed concept.

But an unbanned Stripmine makes Wastelands worthless and then Manaless Dredge will rule them all because all lands die, all the time. ESG and SSG (possibly Manamorphose), along with Lotus Bloom, LED, and Lotus Petal will all become $$$ * the sadness of no land games. Guess ANT becomes even more boss hog'ish.

Actually, unban Stripmine, I'm totally in favor of that now. Manaless Dredge and ANT vs. 4 Wasteland + 4 Stripmine.dec

[Megadeus]

4x Waste, 4x Strip would be hilariously miserable.

[lordofthepit]

It might just be the people I play against doing it wrong but Delver doesn't really bother me all that much. Then again, when you're running pox and small pox there's not much that does except artifacts and combo.

As a side note, the one thing I'd like to see unbanned is strip mine. Yes, i'm the kind of dick that enjoys blowing up land, and strip mine being legal would have the added bonus of bringing down the price of wasteland.

[Megadeus]

Holy shit what a dunk. I'm surprised LeBron hasn't broken the glass yet. He slams it with some force.

[ShiftyKapree]

Quote Originally Posted by Jerome View Post

As a side note, the one thing I'd like to see unbanned is strip mine.

This is without a doubt the worst post I have seen in the history of Magic: The Gathering. I've been looking for a reason to stop playing magic and this was enough to push me over the edge. I'm also considering never posting here again because what little faith I had in humanity was destroyed by this simple sentence.

This post made me laugh uncontrollably dead ass serious

[Jander78]

This thread has deteriorated enough, please continue any B&R discussion in the original Banned and Restricted discussion thread.