Conspiracy - Spoiler discussion

[Aggro_zombies]

I am amused that both Phage and Stifle are in this set. My dream in draft is to Victimize Phage into play, then Stifle the trigger.

[nudon]

http://mythicspoiler.com/cpy/cards/gamekeeper.html

Possible new combo deck with Griselbrand. Living wish seems pretty good to find Gamekeeper or Phyrexian Tower. Burning wish can find a tutor spell (i.e. gsz) or cabal therapy.

[PirateKing]

http://mythicspoiler.com/cpy/cards/gamekeeper.html

Possible new combo deck with Griselbrand. Living wish seems pretty good to find Gamekeeper or Phyrexian Tower. Burning wish can find a tutor spell (i.e. gsz) or cabal therapy.

GSZ=4, flashback Cabal Threapy, Emrakul. Seems good.

[Holly]

Gamekeeper is quite old and was part of various combo decks.. I'm pretty confident that some brews are floating around and I'm pretty sure its just worse than alternatives.

[nudon]

Gamekeeper is quite old and was part of various combo decks.. I'm pretty confident that some brews are floating around and I'm pretty sure its just worse than alternatives.

I hadn't seen the card before but thanks for pointing it out.

[Parcher]

I expect to see many arguments among FNM-tards about using Stifle as a counterspell or what can be stifled.

FNM nothing. I saw three different "Pros" try to Stifle Flashback at PTLA. Personally. Some more than once.

[Infinitium]

Hey, Squirrel Nest got spoiled. Earthcraft ho?

[ESG]

@Nudon: There's an old thread here for a Gamekeeper deck: http://www.mtgthesource.com/forums/s...-%28Control%29

[JanoschEausH]

The problem with Gamekeeper is: Deathrite Shaman or any other graveyard hate.

[nevilshute]

A friend of mine has been brewing a Gamekeeper deck for some time and has been having modest success at our LGS. It's not my impression that DRS is a problem for him at all. He's playing a BG build with a strong removal suite with playsets of Lilianas, Decays, and innocent bloods. He's also running the Living Wish board and Stage/Depths kill as 2ndary win con. What he does have a tremendously hard time beating is Death and Taxes due to 3-4 karakas, swords to plowshares and, to some extent, flickerwisp. I think he can also struggle against fast combo.

I think he's pretty solid against most of the delver decks.

[Thor Hammer]

TNN is a dominant force in legacy, but it is hardly unanswerable. Diabolic Edict, Terminus, Volcanic Fallout, Zealous Persecution, and now Council's Judgment are all more than effective. I think some people will over react to any powerful new card. Power creep is inevitable in some form or another, and that's not a bad thing. Sure they could reprint the same cards over and over again, possibly with different names, to appease a handful of people who don't know how to adapt, but the game would quickly become stale and so would the people who continue to play it.

[ESG]

TNN is a dominant force in legacy, but it is hardly unanswerable. Diabolic Edict, Terminus, Volcanic Fallout, Zealous Persecution, and now Council's Judgment are all more than effective. I think some people will over react to any powerful new card. Power creep is inevitable in some form or another, and that's not a bad thing. Sure they could reprint the same cards over and over again, possibly with different names, to appease a handful of people who don't know how to adapt, but the game would quickly become stale and so would the people who continue to play it.

I don't know what your comment is in reply to, but Volcanic Fallout does not kill TNN.

[Anen]

I don't know what your comment is in reply to, but Volcanic Fallout does not kill TNN.

It depends if the player casting Fallout is the player TNN is protected from