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    Dack Fayden was already discussed in another thread, but now we got some new cards.



    Best in multiplayer games, but maybe it could find its way into Legacy, although I doubt that. Could be abusable with untap effects - it's an Elf to boot. At the very least, it combines nicely with Spirit of the Labyrinth when used during your opponent's turn.



    Essentially a better Flame Rift for 2 mana. Might be interesting for some kind of R/b Burn deck that also runs Bump in the Night.

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    I think the Elf is too random for Legacy.
    The black card looks interesting, it might be worth trying a Red Death deck again with this, Bump and Blightning.
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    Why do these cards have a different expansion symbol than those previously spoiled for Conspiracy?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PirateKing View Post
    Why do these cards have a different expansion symbol than those previously spoiled for Conspiracy?
    Because said cards are also part of Vintage Masters since Conspiracy isn't released on MTGO.

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    I like the elf, since you have around 4 on 9 chances somehow to add GG to your mana pool and 4/9 chances to add G to your mana pool when you use it.
    It means that you will probably be more able to use the additionnal cards that will be drawn by that elf.

    However, it seems slow and there are better ramp cards around (Llanowar elf being better :) ).
    Don't think it is for legacy (and the colors are awfull also :) ).

    THe black card is nice. Is flame rift played widely in Burn??

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    I wonder if there's a better card to combo with the elf than Mind over Matter.

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    The elf and spirit of the labyrinth go well together, doing it on your opponents would mean you don't get to fully utilize the GG unless you have something like Scavenging Ooze or DRS out.
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    It might work that way but I'm sure I'll think of it as cute as it's best. It's too big of an engine just so you can draw a single extra card every turn with no penalties.

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    How does will of the council mechanic works in legacy?!

    new cards are spoiled and some look bonkers

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    Quote Originally Posted by janluis1 View Post
    How does will of the council mechanic works in legacy?!

    new cards are spoiled and some look bonkers
    They do what the rules text says. (the voting will usually be tied, though there could be a corner case like on the counter/copy in vintage where you'd rather counter their fow directly and they want you to copy-counter it so they can drain your ersatz fow, but that's still a tie)

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    Quote Originally Posted by janluis1 View Post
    How does will of the council mechanic works in legacy?!

    new cards are spoiled and some look bonkers
    Just think of those cards as only being the second mode as far as Legacy is concerned. In Tyrant's Choice, you'll almost never get "death" if you vote for it but you'll always get "torture" if you vote for it. I actually think this is a super interesting way to make a card that works differently in multiplayer and in 1 on 1. Pretty inventive on their part.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grand Superior View Post
    Just think of those cards as only being the second mode as far as Legacy is concerned. In Tyrant's Choice, you'll almost never get "death" if you vote for it but you'll always get "torture" if you vote for it. I actually think this is a super interesting way to make a card that works differently in multiplayer and in 1 on 1. Pretty inventive on their part.
    You can only ever get Death if opponent wants it. If you vote Death the card ends up reading "Opponent lose's 4 life unless they sacrifice a creature". It is a shame the caster could not decide which result in a tie, but I guess they though having more model spells would make them too strong.
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    Damn for a second I thought you essentially chose the mode (due to winning the tie) in a 2 player game. Dicks. I was getting excited to begin buying badlands for Bad Burn
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    still cards looks preatty sick. how do you feel about split-decisionn and plea of power?

    http://imgur.com/a/KRwJH

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    Quote Originally Posted by janluis1 View Post
    still cards looks preatty sick. how do you feel about split-decisionn and plea of power?

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    Exploration reprint in Conspiracy, it's up on the mother ship.
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    Exploration reprint in Conspiracy, it's up on the mother ship.
    Exploration is 45$. Could not be happier to see it get a reprint, even in small numbers :)
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    Isn't it on the Reserved List?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bakofried View Post
    Isn't it on the Reserved List?
    18 cards from Urza's Saga are currently on the Reserved List.
    Exploration is not among them.

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