Yeah, I'm not really a fan of the fact that many of the cards are explicitly Limited only (with their "When you draft..." text) as opposed to implicitly Limited only (i.e. janky shit cards you wouldn't ever find a use for in any Constructed format). Yes, it's unexplored design space, and it may even be pretty fun to try, but it comes at a bad time; after Wizards has already done some serious money-grubbery in the recent past. Things like the way Modern Masters was printed and priced, Commander's Arsenal, or a freaking $70 Modern event deck (yes, I am EXTREMELY butthurt about this) really add up.
He puts every playable Goblin but Krenko into play I believe.
Looking at the most recent top 16 from a 6+ round tournament, the guy played 16 creatures with 1 power, 12 with 2 power and 1 with 3.
Definitely a possibility, but I think you'd probably want to tweak the deck to play a few more 1 power duders.
It's less than or equal to, so he hits every Goblin. With some 20-25 Goblins still in the deck around t4~, it seems like he's about 40-50% chance to hit. Imagine Vialing him in after a Terminus to rebuy all your Ringleaders or SGC or Matrons. I can see him taking a couple Piledriver or MWM slots in RB Goblins, since there's no Thalia to clog that slot.
Would you run RWB Goblins? Doubt that. The question is: is the blacksplash for this dood + discard better than RW Goblins with hatebears?
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I mentioned discard as the only alternative to hatebears if you cut white for black to still being able to support Port + Wasteland and that includes Thoughtseize. It's an age-old discussion if you can afford to run cards like Thoughtseize, which present no threat itself in a pure aggro shell. The RB design of Goblins was en vogue during Llorwyn but got dismissed later as the Mad Auntie's & Wort, Boggart Auntie's cardadvantage wasn't worth the splash. I feel this is just the same case: You splash black for a 2cc creature which will create cardadvantage for about 4 mana in activation cost while you want to use your mana for mana-disruption instead. Do goblins really need an off-color engine in addition to Matron + Ringleader? Doubt that.
DRS is a stupid argument. It's an elf, requires green for full potential and you are not even running a mentionable number of instants/sorceries to feed it. What is it recently that people suggest splashing DRS or SFM in like any archetype and call it a day?
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Niiiice.
I know Goblins is the most relevant tribe in RB but it could just as well be any efficient assortment of 1-3 power guys. Goblin Guides, Hellspark Elementals, Dark Confidants, etc.
Granted it's easiest to find it with Matron, and flipping Ringleader to it is living the dream and all, it just doesn't have to be Tribal is all.
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What do you think about Muzzio, Visionary Architect ?
It is a way slower than Tinker and a boltable creature, yet still interesting.
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Why are we focusing in on goblins?
Most good creatures nowadays don't have more than 2 power. Colorwise they are all over the place but this guy can get; DRS, SFM, Mother of Ruins, Ooze, etc.
The problem is that he does nothing 50% of the time - and that's if you run 30 creatures with 2 or below power and not named Grenzo.
It might be better to think about playing Grenzo in combination with things like: Ancient Stirrings and Commune with Nature.
Theoretical Deck list:
Four - Color Dungeon.
4 Grenzo
4 Nobel Heirarch
4 SFM
4 Dark Confidant
4 Mother of Ruins
4 Thalia
4 Phyrexian Revoker
3 Ancient Stirrings
4 Commune with Nature
1 Jitte
1 Batterskull
1 Sword of fire and Ice
4 Aether Vial
2 Ancient Ziggurat
2 Cavern of Souls
4 Mana Confluence
4 City of Brass
2 Reflecting Pool
4 Wasteland
So, inasmuch as 'doing nothing' -- it's about like any "reveal the top X cards" effect, only it's bottom of the library instead.
If it were the top of the deck, then it would necessarily be one of those 'aw shucks, it's only good with Brainstorm" cards. That's not to say that Blue isn't real good at sending cards to the bottom too, but at least Scry gives RB a means of stacking the trunk as well. I doubt the kind of decks that would play this card benefit from splashing Blue for, like, Truth or Tale right?
Also it gives Ye Olde Durpy Sligh Deck one more thing to do at end of turn. As ever, being able to commit resources to the right task is critical in such a deck, and it sucks to run out of gas. If you're 'The Beatdown' but you're playing control with your burn spells, you're failing. If you're supposed to be playing control and you're doming your opponent instead, you're doing it weird. This guy at least gives an RB deck an alternative to cycling through their burn spells as fast as possible; EOT, pay 4 and maybe drop 2 - 6 power of creatures into play? Seems good.
Also also... read the card -- first the card hits the graveyard, and then if it meets the conditions it comes into play. It doesn't get exiled; that means it's yet another means of tossing any card you want into the bin(short of a creature that would ETB, it's not an optional effect). Something something Flashback, something something Reanimator, something Threshold? something. You can dump bunches of shit in the bin, is what I'm saying.
Eh, I lost my narrative a bit. :/
You also posted how it didn't have to be tribal, which I agree with (and meant to say so in my response). Consider the case of Hellspark Elemental; even if Grenzo is a 2/2, one can still Unearth it for 3 dmg and great justice.
It's just more complicated than "50% of the time he does nothing", because he does "reverse mill" your deck in fact. The cards stay in the graveyard. It's attractive because the effect is, as they say, "on a stick". I feel like there's a host of good interactions potentially there, just not sure what exactly.
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