Prosperous Bloom in Legacy

[wsurugby10]

❀ PROSPEROUS BLOOM ❀

1) Inspiration
2) Playing Prosperous Bloom
3) Card choices
3a) Maindeck
3b) Sideboard
4) Price guide
5) Links

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1) Inspiration and History of the Deck
Mike Long's Pros Bloom list from Pro-Tour Paris 1997:
Lands
3 Bad River
7 Forest
5 Island
6 Swamp
4 Undiscovered Paradise

Other Spells
4 Cadaverous Bloom
1 Drain Life
1 Elven Cache
1 Emerald Charm
4 Impulse
4 Infernal Contract
2 Memory Lapse
4 Natural Balance
1 Power Sink
4 Prosperity
4 Squandered Resources
1 Three Wishes
4 Vampiric Tutor

Sideboard
3 City of Solitude
4 Elephant Grass
1 Elven Cache
3 Emerald Charm
1 Memory Lapse
1 Power Sink
2 Wall of Roots

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2) Playing Prosperous Bloom
More to Come

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3) Card Choices
Original Core
Cadaverous Bloom
Prosperity
Drain Life

Potential New WinCons
Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
Banefire

Ramp
Veteran Explorer
Deathrite Shaman
Phyrexian Tower
Life from the Loam
Green Sun's Zenith
Dryad Arbor
Crop Rotation
Squandered Resources

Hand Disruption
Cabal Therapy
Thoughtseize
Duress

Heavier Blue Splash
Force of Will
Daze
Brainstorm
Ponder
Preordain

Combo Protection
Boseiju, Who Shelters All
Xantid Swarm
Regrowth
Eternal Witness

Removal
Abrupt Decay

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3a) Main Deck

Current List:
Lands
2 Misty Rainforest
2 Verdant Catacombs
2 Tropical Island
2 Bayou
2 Boseiju, Who Shelters All
5 Forest
3 Island
4 Swamp
2 Phyrexian Tower

Creatures
4 Veteran Explorer
4 Wall of Roots
1 Dryad Arbor

Other Spells
4 Cadaverous Bloom
1 Drain Life
1 Regrowth
2 Life from the Loam
2 Crop Rotation
3 Green Sun’s Zenith
4 Cabal Therapy
2 Abrupt Decay
4 Prosperity
4 Squandered Resources

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3b) Sideboard
More to Come

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4) Price Guide
More to Come

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5) Links (Some of these are outdated)
Prosperous Bloom in Legacy
ProsBloom Primer
The First Combo Deck

[wsurugby10]

My question is, is this deck at all a viable option in Legacy? I saw this on MTG Salvation and I'm intrigued by it. I'd love to try to make this work.

My Fears
Drain Life- It's easily countered especially if we're giving our opponent tons of cards via Prosperity.
Prosperity- We're giving our opponents a ton of pieces.

Potential Options
Banefire- With enough Mana this is uncounterable.
Emrakul, the Aeons Torn- Uncounterable as well and could be another viable WinCon.

What do we do instead of Prosperity to get cards in our hands? Harmonize, Infernal Contract, Cruel Bargain?

[Anusien]

Cabal Therapy and Prosperity is a nonbo. You need some sort of Silence/Dosan effect.

If you're already in white, Land Tax and Cadaverous Bloom are kind of cute together.

You may also want Squandered Resources.

You also probably want some of the double green lands like Hickory Woodlot.

[wsurugby10]

Cabal Therapy and Prosperity is a nonbo. You need some sort of Silence/Dosan effect.

I guess I was thinking the Nic-Fit ramp engine with Veteran Explorer and Cabal Therapy would be great here to help get a larger Prosperity. I mean I guess I understand why strip the hand when you're going to refill it. That is one of the man reasons I'm thinking about cutting Blue for Red.

[Anusien]

I guess I was thinking the Nic-Fit ramp engine with Veteran Explorer and Cabal Therapy would be great here to help get a larger Prosperity. I mean I guess I understand why strip the hand when you're going to refill it. That is one of the man reasons I'm thinking about cutting Blue for Red.

Sure, sacrificing Veteran Explorer to Cabal Therapy is nice to help you cast Cadaverous Bloom. I just don't know how you ever beat a deck that has Force of Will in it.

[Bed Decks Palyer]

Isn't Braingeyser much, much better than Pros?

[wsurugby10]

Sure, sacrificing Veteran Explorer to Cabal Therapy is nice to help you cast Cadaverous Bloom. I just don't know how you ever beat a deck that has Force of Will in it.

Yeah that's a big reason why I started the thread. That's a glaring weakness I saw as well. That's why I'm thinking you have to have a WinCon that is uncountable like Banefire or Emrakul, the Aeons Torn. Is the deck worth going forward with? Is there any hope at all?

Isn't Braingeyser much, much better than Pros?

Definitely something that only allows a target player to draw is much better but the UU Mana Cost seems like it could be rough on the Manabase.

[Zirath]

I'm pretty sure that Cabal Therapy + Prosperity is pretty strong since it means you can strip their hand. Though Braingeyser is much better I'm guessing. I don't think the cost is relevant since once you are going off you can hit UU easily.

[Lemnear]

As much love I might have for the very first engine combo deck in MTG history, I can not see a 3-card combo working ever again, especially not for those manacosts. There are much more card- & mana-efficient combos available. Aside from that, I'm sure that Squandered Ressources isn't even needed if cards like Dark Ritual or Veteran Explorer are available which however both can feed much better cards than a do-nothing like Cadaverous Bloom or outdated stuff like Prosperity

This deck won't get you anywhere and the concept is flawed (generate 5 mana, drop a permanent AND have a full grip). If you want to put work into an engine-combo deck of old, try Aluren. The 4cc enchantment at least has some future potential with WotC continuous creature powercreep

[Bed Decks Palyer]

I'm afraid Lemnear is completely right. As much as I often do the same, like trying to revive the old creaturegeddon concept, some things won't work anymore. Unless you plan to play the deck for fun, don't expect a miracle.

[Darkenslight]

Isn't Braingeyser much, much better than Pros?

Braingeyser is also banned in Legacy. Try Stroke of Genius or Blue Sun's Zenith.

[Bed Decks Palyer]

Braingeyser is also banned in Legacy.

http://www.wizards.com/Magic/TCG/Res...rces/sfrlegacy
Ctrl+F "Braingeyser"

[Lemnear]

If you want to work on this deck and idea, I'd try keeping it in BG only and build it in the direction of The Spanish Inquisition: Veteran Explorer, Therapy, Culling the Weak, Dark Ritual, GSZ, Dryad Arbor, Infernal Contract, Cruel Bargain, Cadaverous Bloom (and possibly Spoils of the Vault).

This way you can work with a lot of basics and have some carddraw that works even without bloom unlike Braingeyser. Drain Life is outdated; try 2-3 Maga, Traitor or Mortals

[Darkenslight]

http://www.wizards.com/Magic/TCG/Res...rces/sfrlegacy
Ctrl+F "Braingeyser"

What? When did that happen?

[Lemnear]

What? When did that happen?

List seperation in 2004 afaik

[Dice_Box]

Hell, if you find Brains UU to be expensive, there is always Stroke of Genius.

[Lemnear]

Hell, if you find Brains UU to be expensive, there is always Stroke of Genius.

There is the general Problem that you can't generate blue mana outside of lands and SR. SR is a bad card overall and running blue draw means that you can't combo off Bloom alone after you have it in play or are required to cast more than one Prosperity/Geyser/Stroke. Black or green carddraw gets around that problem and that's why I suggested Contract/Bargain.

Edit: I feel that the role of Natural Balance in Mike's old deck is not understood in general :/

[Zupponn]

I can't shake the feeling that Primeval Titan into Stage/Depths combo would be good here.

[joemauer]

I can't shake the feeling that Primeval Titan into Stage/Depths combo would be good here.

Maybe throw in some Delvers and Deathrite Shamans too.

[Mystical_Jackass]

My question is, if going blue anyways, why play this over Dream Halls? And if Emrakul, why not play show and tell.

I was almost going to suggest Academy Rector/Land Tax, but then I realized.. if you're gonna' sac Academy Rector, lets say you have cabal therapies or diabolic intent... you might as well just grab Omniscience and straight up win the game, right. I dunno, that's just how I see it, it seems a suboptimal choice nowadays.