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    Would you support 'legalizing' CE and World Championships cards?

    I wonder if WotC would even consider it - they're not reprinting any new cards and technically they are 'real' MtG cards. I also doubt they'd affect the value of ABU staples, just increase the price of the gold bordered cards.

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    Re: Would you support 'legalizing' CE and World Championships cards?

    Yes, but not before I complete my CE/IE sets.

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    Re: Would you support 'legalizing' CE and World Championships cards?

    Yes. They already have cards that don't have magic backs legalized, and with opaque sleeves they are perfectly fine to be played in your deck. Don't see why legalizing GB cards would change anything other than increase the amount of legally playable cards without having to resort to a reprint.
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    Re: Would you support 'legalizing' CE and World Championships cards?

    Anything which would allow more people to play is a good thing.
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    Re: Would you support 'legalizing' CE and World Championships cards?

    Quote Originally Posted by Megadeus View Post
    Yes. They already have cards that don't have magic backs legalized, and with opaque sleeves they are perfectly fine to be played in your deck.
    Is this referring to the "transform" cards?

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    Re: Would you support 'legalizing' CE and World Championships cards?

    Quote Originally Posted by iamajellydonut View Post
    Is this referring to the "transform" cards?
    Yes.
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    Re: Would you support 'legalizing' CE and World Championships cards?

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    Yes.
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    Re: Would you support 'legalizing' CE and World Championships cards?

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    Re: Would you support 'legalizing' CE and World Championships cards?

    Yes. Now I wish someone who had voted 'No' would say why. I imagine it's just to protect their investment value, but as someone who owns partial power (two moxes, ancestral) and twenty-and-change duals, I respectfully disagree.

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    Big problem is that it's just a stop-gap. The only real solution is to ditch the Reserved List entirely.

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    Re: Would you support 'legalizing' CE and World Championships cards?

    I voted no and I'll tell you why; legalizing this cards just band aids the problems while barely fixing the issue. What I do support, as someone heavily invested in reserved list cards (Power, duals, etc), is smart reprintings of staples, IE a dual in a commander set, etc. Sure, it lowers the value if many of those cards, but it fixes the problem in a sensible way.

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    Re: Would you support 'legalizing' CE and World Championships cards?

    I understand where you guys are coming from, but what is the issue with allowing CE cards? Sure it is a "stop gap" as you say, but it is better than nothing.
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    Re: Would you support 'legalizing' CE and World Championships cards?

    Quote Originally Posted by Megadeus View Post
    I understand where you guys are coming from, but what is the issue with allowing CE cards? Sure it is a "stop gap" as you say, but it is better than nothing.
    I was thinking the same thing. I have no problem with them legalizing cards that are already printed. The reserve list is not going away...we might as well deal with it.

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    Re: Would you support 'legalizing' CE and World Championships cards?

    Quote Originally Posted by btm10 View Post
    Yes. Now I wish someone who had voted 'No' would say why. I imagine it's just to protect their investment value, but as someone who owns partial power (two moxes, ancestral) and twenty-and-change duals, I respectfully disagree.
    The problem are the CE cards corners. You can tell Alphas apart from all other editions within their sleeves. The Problem with CE is even worse and any for of cuttin the edges yourself is marking the cards.

    The CE issue therefore has absolutely nothing to do with protecting value but with tournament play
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    Re: Would you support 'legalizing' CE and World Championships cards?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lemnear View Post
    The problem are the CE cards corners. You can tell Alphas apart from all other editions within their sleeves. The Problem with CE is even worse and any for of cuttin the edges yourself is marking the cards.

    The CE issue therefore has absolutely nothing to do with protecting value but with tournament play
    You can look at the back of an opaque sleeve and tell the card is Alpha? Is that what you are saying?

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    Re: Would you support 'legalizing' CE and World Championships cards?

    Quote Originally Posted by Megadeus View Post
    I understand where you guys are coming from, but what is the issue with allowing CE cards? Sure it is a "stop gap" as you say, but it is better than nothing.
    As I see it, the issue is that legalizing CE/IE, atleast in the case of Duals, just causes the price of CE/IE to dramatically increase without reducing the price of the original printings. There were only 15,000 CE/IE sets printed, so you only inject 15,000 U-Seas, etc into the market. Compare that to the approximately 300,000 copies of Revised Underground Sea; it just doesn't make a tangible difference. I suppose it could make a difference in terms of the price of Power, but I'd be inclined to think that rather than allowing a bunch of new players to play Vintage that it would just bump CE Black Lotus from $300 to $1000, and people would just be priced out again.

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    Re: Would you support 'legalizing' CE and World Championships cards?

    Quote Originally Posted by thegrinningdemon View Post
    I was thinking the same thing. I have no problem with them legalizing cards that are already printed. The reserve list is not going away...we might as well deal with it.
    I was thinking the same thing. I have no problem with them abolishing the reserve list. The CE/IE cards are never getting legalized...we might as well deal with it.
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    The square corners ruin it. Oh and it wouldn't help much at all; they announce this and EVERY CE/IE dual land would disappear overnight, that I can promise you. The fronts of IE/CE look just like alpha/beta/cards that cost an arm and a leg to obtain and had similar print runs to alpha and beta/quite limited/people would shell out quite a bit for CE/IE dual lands as well as power 9 and other staples from beta like d. tutor, fastbond, etc. etc.
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    Re: Would you support 'legalizing' CE and World Championships cards?

    I do not honestly feel like this would make any tangible benefit to overall cost. All it would do is shoot up the price of the cards that the EDH crew can afford. For this reason, I would rather things stay as they are. That or just remove that blasted list.
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    Re: Would you support 'legalizing' CE and World Championships cards?

    Quote Originally Posted by thegrinningdemon View Post
    You can look at the back of an opaque sleeve and tell the card is Alpha? Is that what you are saying?
    I can tell while shuffling. CE corners are even easier to tell as you might imagine.
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