[Primer/Deck] Nic Fit

[rubblekill]

Everyone has paused to read master bio.


I imagine they are mad that they are losing to an edh deck haha

How do you like Jace in the deck? To me he is the top reason to play blue (after simic sky swallower, of course).

[grokh]

Hi,

Just did a top4 on a 24 players tournament this Sunday, i played the following list :

// FORMAT : Legacy
1 [UNH] Island
1 [LG] Karakas
1 [US] Phyrexian Tower
1 [UNH] Plains
1 [R] Savannah
1 [R] Scrubland
1 [R] Tropical Island
1 [SH] Volrath's Stronghold
2 [R] Bayou
2 [UNH] Forest
2 [UNH] Swamp
4 [ZEN] Verdant Catacombs
4 [] Windswept Heath
1 [] Atraxa, Praetor's Voice
1 [RTR] Deathrite Shaman
1 [] Eternal Witness
1 [] Leovold, Emissary of Trest
1 [M12] Primeval Titan
1 [] Scavenging Ooze
1 [AVR] Sigarda, Host of Herons
4 [] Siege Rhino
4 [] Veteran Explorer
1 [] Nissa, Vital Force
1 [DKA] Sorin, Lord of Innistrad
3 [CHK] Sensei's Divining Top
3 [] Pernicious Deed
3 [RTR] Abrupt Decay
3 [CMD] Path to Exile
1 [ARB] Maelstrom Pulse
4 [JU] Cabal Therapy
4 [MBS] Green Sun's Zenith
SB: 3 [THS] Thoughtseize
SB: 1 [] Reclamation Sage
SB: 1 [] Kambal, Consul of Allocation
SB: 1 [MBS] Glissa, the Traitor
SB: 3 [NPH] Surgical Extraction
SB: 1 [C13] Toxic Deluge
SB: 1 [] Golgari Charm
SB: 1 [RTR] Pithing Needle
SB: 1 [] Sanctum Prelate
SB: 2 [] Painful Truths

Round 1 : Enchantress

G1 : He took a early Cabal therapy on Argothian enchantress (we knew each other so we know against which deck we played), then flashback on Veteran explorer and a big Primeval titan which crushed him (i had to decay some Ghostly prison and Elephant grass before)

G2 : Kambal came very fast (on turn 2 or 3), and the drain life didn't helped him

Win 2-0

Round 2 : Miracles

G1 : Very long game (45 mins) where he took some Rhino attacking before being removed. Then, Leovold has attacked him several turns and it was had for him to cantrip. Sigarda attacked some turns and dealt some points. At a moment he is at 3 life, i attacked with Sigarda. He hardcast Terminus, then has just 1 mana left and no cards in hand. I look with Top and see 3 lands so I decide to Path my own Sigarda in response, take a land and see 3 new cards : GSZ/Rhino/land. On my turn he had CB + Top so i go for Zenith for X=6, and take the Rhino from the top to finish him !

G2 : Game very fast where he kills me with a Monastery and 6 Monk friends on the 3rd additionnal turn.

Draw 1-1

Round 3 : Eldrazi

G1 : Short game, i take Chalice at 1, then Mimic, followed by TKS and Reality smasher

G2 : I win by resetting the board twice with Deeds, the Pithing needle on Wasteland helped me to keep my mana out of his denial

G3 : Big game, Mimic then TKS, then Matter reshaper. I block him every turn, recurring a Rhino with Wohlraj + Tower. He'll go until he's at 3 life and topdeck a Reality smasher, i won't have enough blockers and take 7, i was at 7 :(

Lost 1-2

Round 4 : Burn

G1 : He wins fast with Goblin guide then 2 Fireblasts, sure that helping him with my Veteran triggers isn't good

G2 : An early Kambal will fast make some coffee with sugar and all the stuff

G3 : same as G2 but MORE coffee with Kambal, then Rhino, then Sorin who will go until -6 and recur my Rhino again + take his Goblin guide :p

Win 2-1

Round 5 : Omnitell (without Sneak attack, mono U)

I know the player cos it's my friend with i travelled since early in the morning from my country :)

G1 : He early S&T, he puts Omniscience, i put Primeval titan, then he hardcast Emrakul ... :(

G2 : I open a perfect hand : Thoughtseize, Cabal, Veteran, Kambal, Reclamation sage and 2 lands, i just destroy his hand, drop Kambal ten attack and wait. He'll S&T, he puts Omniscience, i put Reclamation sage, he wanted to go on Emrakul and i win

G3 : he'll early S&T : he puts Emrakul, i put Primeval titan tutoring for Karakas + other land, then bounce Emrakul on my turn. The titan will race him until victory.

I finished 7th at end of the rounds and GO TOP 8 !

TOP8

1/4 Final - Eldrazi (same player as round 3)

He got toss, he starts

G1 : I keep a hand with 2 Cabal, GSZ, and other things so i keep. He opens by Chalice at 1. I'm forced to throw a Cabal for putting in gy, then GSZ on Veteran and flashback my Cabal still in the void just for ramp. I'll manage to get a Rhino but that won't be enough

G2 : He opens on Leyline of the void, i had kept a hand with Golgari charm so i destroy the Leyline with Charm on my T2, then i'l go for Rhino + Atraxa who'll race him

G3 : I manage to get Glissa + Rhino. He falls into the Glissa trap by attacking with Matter reshaper equipped with Jitte but no counters on Jitte (he did'nt knew how Glissa worked). Then he got a board with TKS + 2 Oblivion sower + Reality smasher and i prefer play safe by cracking my Deed at X=6. Then lots of turns where we both land go. I find a Rhino who'll get until the end cos i deal with his beasts with my Paths and Pulse.

Win 2-1

1/2 Final - Death and taxes

G1 : Double Mother of runes, Serra avenger and Mirran crusader. I got Path, Decay and Pulse in hand but can't do anything cos double Mother and he rishadans me every turn ...

G2 : Long game where i'll empty his board with a Deed then he'll topdeck lots of lands, he'll get 4 Rishadan port and tap my 4 black sources every turn. I finish by getting a 5th black source, put Sorin on board. Sorin will bring me back from 4 life to 12 life by putting 1/1 Vampire lifelink tokens then Emblem and he has no topdecks

G3 : Big opening for him with Thalia, Mother, Wasteland and Rishadan. The Flickerwisp will end the game

Lose 1-2

I finish 4th of the tournament and go with a Batterskull as my reward.

They'll will split top8.

Top8 is :

1) Bant
2) Death and taxes
3) Eldrazi (with W for Displacer)
4) Nic fit ( ME !!)
5) Eldrazi (without Displacer)
6) High tide
7) Tin fins
8) Zoo

Not sure on 7 and 8 but there's a Tin fins in top 8 for sure, and i'm not sure what was the 8th deck !

I think i'll do the following changes in my list for next tournament :
MD :
-1 Rhino +1 Thragtusk
-2 Path to exile +2 Blessed alliance

SB :
-1 Pithing needle +1 Engineered plague

[cherson]

Hi,

Just did a top4 on a 24 players tournament this Sunday, i played the following list :

congrats on the finish. I always thought that d&t is a good mu but recently I lost all my games to them.
I play a quite similar list online atm.
- 2 rhino
- 1 titan
- 1 pulse
- 1 scooze
- 1 sorin, loi
- 1 pte
+ 2 baleful strix
+1 thragtusk
+1 vindicate
+1 tracker
+1 garruk
+1 deathrite
(+1 ste / 61 cards).

I consider to add an underground sea to have at least 3 blue sources. have u ever been lacking the right colors? except you got ported obv.

great move btw..
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He hardcast Terminus, then has just 1 mana left and no cards in hand. I look with Top and see 3 lands so I decide to Path my own Sigarda in response, take a land and see 3 new cards : GSZ/Rhino/land. On my turn he had CB + Top so i go for Zenith for X=6, and take the Rhino from the top to finish him !
++

[Hanzalot]

@Ricardio - would you post your Biomancer list? That would be great!

Thanks


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[Navsi]

Tournament this Sunday.

Starfield or Sneak Attack? That is the question.

Both feel enormously powerful. Sneak Attack is definitely easier to play, but Starfield needs testing more.

[Ricardio]

How do you like Jace in the deck? To me he is the top reason to play blue (after simic sky swallower, of course).

JTMS is amazing. I think the grean creatures you get in blue are a huge reason to play BUG but also people fear Force from you.
Strix and flusterstorm are great sb cards as well. Notion thief is cute but nonbos with Leo.
Master Bio seems borderline unplayable at first but once you realize he dodges everything but swords and makes all your creatures threats, a stupid grins befalls your face.

@Ricardio - would you post your Biomancer list? That would be great!

Thanks

http://i.imgur.com/xZpzPdd.png
This link is close. I won't be able to post updated till later since im at work. ideally, I will have a chance at lunch.

The list is fun.

I am also stoked about the tezz build :D

[Surfkatt]

Tournament this Sunday.

Starfield or Sneak Attack? That is the question.

Both feel enormously powerful. Sneak Attack is definitely easier to play, but Starfield needs testing more.

StarField! That deck seems super cool and potentially powerful.

[Navsi]

StarField! That deck seems super cool and potentially powerful.

I do also get to annoy judges with Humility/Starfield/Living Plane questions, which is always a nice bonus.

[square_two]

I do also get to annoy judges with Humility/Starfield/Living Plane questions, which is always a nice bonus.

I've really been wanting to get Living Plane + Humility out. Your lands uh...are 1/1 creatures...with no abilities

[Ricardio]

I've really been wanting to get Living Plane + Humility out. Your lands uh...are 1/1 creatures...with no abilities

Curse of Death's Hold

[removedfromgame]

So my Junk fit list is pretty streamlined against the majority of the field, but I'm still terrified of combo in most of it's iterations. I run 3 surgicals, 3 thoughtsieze, teeg and needle for my general combo match ups. Sneak and Show doesn't really see play in my meta currently and there are one or two reanimator decks, both UB and BR.

My current board plan is below, should I be running lost legacy as well? I feel that outside of D&t, my mainboard is well versed against the majority of the legacy field, with some matches being closer to 50/50 than others.

3 Thoughtsieze
3 Surgical Extraction
1 Pithing Needle
1 Gaddock Teeg
1 Golgari Charm
1 Reclamation Sage
1 Glissa, the Traitor
2 Choke
1 Garruk Relentless
1 Massacre

(for reference the main is this:)

Lands: 22
8 Fetches
2 Bayou
1 Scrubland
1 Savannah
1 Dryad Arbor
1 Phyrexian Tower
2 Plains
3 Swamp
3 Forest

Creatures: 15
4 Explorer
1 Deathrite
1 Scavenging Ooze
1 Sakura Tribe-Elder
1 Eternal Witness
3 Siege Rhino
1 Meren of Clan Nel Toth
1 Thrun, the Last Troll
1 Thragtusk
1 Sigarda, Host of Herons

Non Creature: 23
4 Green Sun's Zenith
4 Cabal Therapy
3 Sensei's Divining Top
1 Swords to Plowshares
3 Abrupt Decay
3 Pernicious Deed
1 Maelstrom Pulse
1 Vindicate
1 Dismember
1 Painful Truths
1 Nissa, Vital Force

[Ricardio]

So my Junk fit list is pretty streamlined against the majority of the field, but I'm still terrified of combo in most of it's iterations. I run 3 surgicals, 3 thoughtsieze, teeg and needle for my general combo match ups. Sneak and Show doesn't really see play in my meta currently and there are one or two reanimator decks, both UB and BR.

My current board plan is below, should I be running lost legacy as well? I feel that outside of D&t, my mainboard is well versed against the majority of the legacy field, with some matches being closer to 50/50 than others.

3 Thoughtsieze
3 Surgical Extraction
1 Pithing Needle
1 Gaddock Teeg
1 Golgari Charm
1 Reclamation Sage
1 Glissa, the Traitor
2 Choke
1 Garruk Relentless
1 Massacre

(for reference the main is this:)

Lands: 22
8 Fetches
2 Bayou
1 Scrubland
1 Savannah
1 Dryad Arbor
1 Phyrexian Tower
2 Plains
3 Swamp
3 Forest

Creatures: 15
4 Explorer
1 Deathrite
1 Scavenging Ooze
1 Sakura Tribe-Elder
1 Eternal Witness
3 Siege Rhino
1 Meren of Clan Nel Toth
1 Thrun, the Last Troll
1 Thragtusk
1 Sigarda, Host of Herons

Non Creature: 23
4 Green Sun's Zenith
4 Cabal Therapy
3 Sensei's Divining Top
1 Swords to Plowshares
3 Abrupt Decay
3 Pernicious Deed
1 Maelstrom Pulse
1 Vindicate
1 Dismember
1 Painful Truths
1 Nissa, Vital Force

Tsunami is just better than choke.
dismember and swords should be 2 path
switch a top to a library?
Have you tried Kambal in the side? He is good.
Lost legacy seems to be better than I initially thought (yes, echelon)

[rubblekill]

Tsunami is just better than choke.
dismember and swords should be 2 path
switch a top to a library?
Have you tried Kambal in the side? He is good.
Lost legacy seems to be better than I initially thought (yes, echelon)

You are welcome

E. I still think that canonist is better for her implications against elves and Lauren, 2 horrible mu in my experience

[removedfromgame]

Tsunami is just better than choke.
dismember and swords should be 2 path
switch a top to a library?
Have you tried Kambal in the side? He is good.
Lost legacy seems to be better than I initially thought (yes, echelon)

Yeah, so I find that choke has been underwhelming outside of the one or two times i "get someone" with it. I like that switch.

I agree with the two path, but I'm fond of dismember. I'm going to switch it up and see how that feels. I think that I might not be looking at that switch from an objective enough standpoint.

I haven't tried kambal, my biggest concern is that I can't green sun for him, making it more difficult for me to run him as a silver bullet. How have you felt about your odds of seeing him vs his contribution to the match up?

I'm against library in the main because of my pernicious deeds, but against storm does it do enough to warrant a slot? In that match i take out my deeds, but I'm a little wary. It seems slow?

I really should test out lost legacy.

[Ricardio]

You are welcome

E. I still think that canonist is better for her implications against elves and Lauren, 2 horrible mu in my experience

Haha sorry. You were right as well.
I think canonist is better but Kambal(Kumbal) seems strong to play as well.


@removed: you are playing arbor, cmon man. Also, I suggest trying a single deluge over the 3rd deed. Additionally, making room for a tracker might help your grind games.

[mistercakes]

ran this at my local and went 3-1.

4 veteran explorer
4 deathrite shaman
1 sakura tribe-elder
1 eternal witness
1 tireless tracker
1 leovold, emissary of trest
1 thragtusk
2 baleful strix
(21 spells)
4 green sun's zenith
3 sensei's divining top
4 cabal therapy
2 jace, tms
2 nissa, vital force
1 ob-nixilis reignited
1 garruk relentless
2 abrupt decay
1 pernicious deed
1 innocent blood
(23 land)
2 phyrexian tower
4 misty rainforest
4 verdant catacomb
1 polluted delta
1 dryad arbor
2 underground sea
1 tropical island
2 bayou
3 forest
2 island
2 swamp

i didn't really like the tribe elder that much, prob would run another bayou over it. i would also like to squeeze in a volrath's stronghold, could be the innocent blood's spot.

sb i ran was:

2 engineered plague
1 faerie macabre
2 surgical extraction
1 maelstrom pulse
1 pernicious deed
1 lost legacy
1 thoughtseize
1 flusterstorm
2 abrupt decay
2 pithing needle
1 massacre

r1: blue/red delver.

his draws were unremarkable, thragtusk down both games and he couldn't catch up.

r2: aggro loam.

game 1 i had an early garruk relentless and just got too much card advantage with planeswalkers.
game 2 was close, but he ended up killing himself with dark confidants (i extracted his loam, then witnessed it back to get his punishing fires)

r3: ANT.

lost game 1. game 2 i drew my sb cards. game 3 was close but he outraced me.

r4: miracles

won a really really long game. drew about 10 extra cards with nissa ult. recurred deed to protect myself from angels.

(we never got to play a game 2)

[Brael]

Finally got Nissa onto the field. I like her, she's like our very own Reality Smasher.

Besides the Trophy Mage build which I'm still brewing but at least a month away from testing, revisiting walkers seems fun. The question seems to be between BUG for Jace or Junk for Sorin.

Edit: Chandra, Flamecaller opens up an interesting Jund build too.

[removedfromgame]

@removed: you are playing arbor, cmon man. Also, I suggest trying a single deluge over the 3rd deed. Additionally, making room for a tracker might help your grind games.

Ugh, I know. Every time I see that card I get morally offended. However the surprise chump blocker never gets old and sometimes it's a relevant thing to sacrifice to therapy. It's annoying how many random uses it has. I have a buddy who I argue with often about that card (he err's on the side of keeping it) but I keep looking to cut it so bad it wished I didn't cut it so bad.

I want to play tracker. I need to fit it somewhere. Deluge is interesting. My lgs has learned to respect deed.

[Ricardio]

Finally got Nissa onto the field. I like her, she's like our very own Reality Smasher.

Besides the Trophy Mage build which I'm still brewing but at least a month away from testing, revisiting walkers seems fun. The question seems to be between BUG for Jace or Junk for Sorin.

Edit: Chandra, Flamecaller opens up an interesting Jund build too.

But the tezz fit list?

Ugh, I know. Every time I see that card I get morally offended. However the surprise chump blocker never gets old and sometimes it's a relevant thing to sacrifice to therapy. It's annoying how many random uses it has. I have a buddy who I argue with often about that card (he err's on the side of keeping it) but I keep looking to cut it so bad it wished I didn't cut it so bad.

I want to play tracker. I need to fit it somewhere. Deluge is interesting. My lgs has learned to respect deed.

a land that dies to deed/deluge and doesn't tap when it enters but also dies to wasteland as well as everything short of decay: NEGATIVE, GHOST RIDER.
They are just suggestions, I don't think your choices are wrong.

[Brael]

But the tezz fit list?

Still haven't seen the list. I forgot about it honestly. I'm pretty busy through the middle of next week. Eventually I'll take a look at it, from the description you provided it sounded neat.