Not nearly enough Siege Rhino....
-Matt
Not nearly enough carpet of flowers.
Do you have a link to the stream.
here is the link to the exact broadcast:
http://www.twitch.tv/calebdmtg/v/3733663
I dunno bout that sideboard. I think it could use some thoughtseizes or duresses and surgicals instead of leylines.
Hi Guys,
I new in this forum
First: Sorry for my bad english
Second: This is the list of my PFire Nic/Fit... you can help me with SIDE?
CREATURE: (11)
4 Veteran Explorer
1 Deathrite Shaman
1 Scavenging Ooze
1 Thrun the last troll
1 Primeval Titan
1 Huntmaster of the fells
1 Thragtusk
1 Eternal witness
SPELLS: (26)
3 Punishing Fire
3 Abrupt Decay
3 Pernicious deed
3 Sensei's divining top
4 Geen Sun's Zenith
4 Cabal Therapy
2 Thoughtseize
2 Maelstrom Pulse
2 Liliana of the Veil
LANDS: (23)
4 Verdant catacombs
4 Grove of the burnwillows
2 Bayou
2 Badlands
1 Taiga
1 Phyrexian Tower
3 Forest
2 Swamp
1 Mountain
1 Kessig
2 Wooded Foothills
SIDE:
1 Gaddog teeg
2 Golgary charm
2 Slaughter games
3 Red elemental Blast
1 Toxic deluge
1 Massacre
1 Reclamation sage
2 Relic of Progenitus
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Then??? Help me!!
Third: I think to cut Huntmaster for Nissa Worldwaker...what do you think?
Thanks for the tips...
Welcome !Originally Posted by grandemagopiccolo
You should certainly start reading the primer. The Punishing section is pretty well documented.
If you want to play Gaddock, you should also play a single savannah/scrubland MD.
Counting on 1 Deathrite to produce white to get Gaddock will be difficult, I agree playing a single white source if you are going to play him.
A sideboard for Jund likely looks something like this:
3 REB
2 Slaughter Games
1 Toxic Deluge
2 Krosan Grip
3 Surgical Extraction
2 Thoughtseize (since you have 2 mainboard)
2 Carpet of Flowers
If you really want to play the 1-of teeg, shave an Extraction or Thoughtseize.
-Matt
Thanks for suggest...
About Nissa?? it is a good idea?
Another question...why carpet of flower?
Huntmaster of the fells provides a lot of utility and if lefted unchecked has a fast clock. Also when it start transforming it becomes a real nightmare for your opponent. Especially when you have PFire online. Also it can be fetched with GSZ.
Carpet of flowers is (offcourse) a replacement for Veteran Explorer. It provides huge amounts of mana versus blue decks without risking advantage for opponents. Against ie Miracles you do NOT want them to benefit from Veteran Explorer. Carpet fills that spot nicely. Also Carpet of Flowers activates the post combat mainphase if you cast it in the pre combat mainphase, so it immediatly provides advantage.
Kagu-Tsuchi カグツチ (Jund NicFit)
Rhino's Abbondanza (Junk NicFit)
4c Aggro Loam
What Bob said about carpet. Whenever you play a blue deck with basics you side 3 of your veterans maybe 4 for carpets. So Miracles, Hightide, Landstill, Maybe Sneak and Show. Decks that require a bunch of Island type lands.
As for huntmaster I have never liked him he dies to almost every kind of removal, and is a significant mana investment. One more mana gets you a thragtush, or for the 4cc you get thrun. Your choice.
There are matchups against blue decks where i would still prefer Veteran over Carpet since it can also chump block. Especially against RUG/UWR/BUG Delver that do not run basics.
Against Storm, Reanimate and Show and Tell you would want Carpet because Veteran accelerates them. Carpet only accelerates you and if they have an island out you can play Carpet go to 2nd main and cast Therapy/Thoughtseize or whatever.
Huntmaster is really personal. I am in love with the card so much i play 2 main. Yes it gets removed fast but if they cant it changes the board state nearly on its own. It does sooo many things. Also it can be 8 damage on its first attack and 6 on each following. This is really solid against combo since it closes out the game really fast. Keep in mind that i play the two towers instead of thrunrun coupled with 4 DRS main.
Kagu-Tsuchi カグツチ (Jund NicFit)
Rhino's Abbondanza (Junk NicFit)
4c Aggro Loam
Are any Punishing players still balsy enough to run Kessig Wolf Run + Two Towers? And what's the gameplan versus MUD?
I run all three. Punishing fire/decay that metalworker right quick. deed can sweep their mana artifacts, chalice, and t sphere (not to mention lightning greaves if they play it early). Sometimes they will just nut you with their combo draws. Bring in grip/grudge/rec sage if in your board.
Watching Caleb Durward's Rock NicFit video makes me want to test it out. 3 Hymn main and 1 side looks so juicy. He's even got a 1 Teeg SB without playing white sources. This guy's nutso. He should definitely have Carpets and Surgicals. All that discard makes combo look much more appealing.
Personally i think of Wolf Run as a win more. Times i had it and started to use it i was winning already. Two towers provide utility in both speeding up (tower) and grindig out (stronghold). Plus i carry a sentiment from both lands at the times of Urza block in various decks (Survival of the Fittest/Academy Rector).
Who actually figured out the Punishing Fire NicFit anyway's? Hes a hero!
Kagu-Tsuchi カグツチ (Jund NicFit)
Rhino's Abbondanza (Junk NicFit)
4c Aggro Loam
I'm doing it, I'm playing the RockFit. Basically stole Durward's list and made a few edits to suit my playing. This looks like a blast, fking love Hymn. SB tbd
22 Land
3 Bayou
1 Scrubland
4 Forest
4 Swamp
4 Verdant Catacombs
4 Windswept Heath
1 Volrath's Stronghold
1 Phyrexian Tower
13
4 Veteran Explorer
1 Deathrite Shaman
2 Scavenging Ooze
1 Eternal Witness
1 Kitchen Finks
1 Thragtusk
1 Titania
1 Grave Titan
1 Primeval Titan
25
4 Cabal Therapy
4 Green Sun's Zenith
3 Sensei's Divining Top
3 Hymn to Tourach
4 Abrupt Decay
3 Liliana of the Veil
1 Maelstorm Pulse
3 Pernicious Deed
After watching his stream today, I wanna jam that list as well. Man that deck looks sweet! Double Grave Titan + Titania seems so much fun! Also a big fan of Hymn! :D I will be trying Calebs list
-1 Scrying
-1 Courser
+2 Tasigur
-2 Bayou
+1 Scrubland
+1 Urborg
SB could look like this:
1 Teeg
3 Containment Priest
3 Extirpate/Thoughtseize
2 Plague
1 Pulse
1 Hymn
2 Charm
2 Disfigure
I must be missing something, but I don't understand the Tasigur hype. Is the ability that good?
I've only started messing around with him in modern so far but he has been really great. I think people are focusing too much on his ability while ignoring that it is tacked on to a great body that's easy and versatile to cast. Nic Fit is also one of the few decks capable of delving him out and activating his ability in the same turn if the game goes even a little long and grindy. As long as your deck isn't filled with bad non-land cards you should be getting some sort of value out of him if you have mana to spare. I don't know if that's worth it or not yet but it certainly seems like something that shouldn't just be written off.
The biggest criteria for NicFit creatures are: can it be GSZd? If not, does it change the game dramatically when it ETB? The only non-green creature I'm OK with playing is Grave Titan because it produces 4 damage attached to other bodies. Playing Tasigur feels bad in that regard as it doesn't really pay off until you sink mana into it. Even then, the opponent gets to choose what you're getting back (granted, I wouldn't mind getting anything back for a second use with this deck). It feels kinda forced, and I think I'd rather it be another G Titan or Thrun.
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