New to Grixis Control and brewing a list up right now and not sure about a maindeck choice. I thoughted of playing one Blood Moon in the main deck and one in the side, due to budget reasons I am heavy on Basics, but not sure, if it is good enough especally as random 1-of. Blood Moon destroys a few decks alone, but also can be completly dead. So not sure, if Moon makes sense and if I should play 1 main. That`s the mana base I would like to play:
2 Underground Sea
2 Volcanic Island
2 Badlands
4 Polluted Delta
3 Bloodstained Mire
2 Scalding Tarn
2 Island (maybe + 1 if 21 lands total is better)
2 Swamp
1 Mountain
I think you should look at legacy superstar Yuta Takahashi's manabase in his Grixis Control list from PT 25, I think that it's a really good take on a manabase and it also allows you to play Moon/B2B if you want to.
Link: https://magic.wizards.com/en/events/...sts-2018-08-05
Thank you. I have tried the mana base with Blood Moon main, mana base was solid, but works better with more duals. Also Blood Moon in the main was really underwhelming it doesn`t fit the game plan and most of the time it was dead in hand. Maybe moon is worth 1 or 2 slots in the sideboard for improving the Eldrazi and Lands matchup, which are difficult for Grixis.
What is the worst hate card against us in Delver / Shadow Decks, other than Liliana, the last Hope? Winter Worb, Biterblossom, TNN, Liliana, Sulfuric Vortex, any others?
Last hope/darkblast are the best way to fight through grixis control with delver/shadow. You're better off killing strixes and pushing damage through than trying to fight them in the long game. I think that BB is too slow and it's too easy to control now that everyone is running last hope, it doesn't do anything if you aren't getting it down early. I haven't run into vortex in a while but I can see it doing some work, it seems like kind of a liability though against a deck that can pressure really fast with bolt snapcaster bolt and angler.
The number of times I've killed my opponents with their Bitterblossoms is comparable to the number of times their Bitterblossoms have killed me. It's much scarier maindeck alongside Pyromancer than it is out of the board, when Control ia going to have more sweepers and probably more Liliana, the Last Hope (if they aren't maindecking two to begin with). A 3 Bolt/2 Push split (rather than the stock 3 Push/2 Bolt) is pretty reasonable if you aren't seeing many Shadows or Tarmogoyfs, and is a very good way to steal games against a Bitterblossom.
https://www.mtggoldfish.com/archetyp...ol-60679#paper
This deck felt really close to what grixis is trying to do. How do people feel it compares to grixis?
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I've not played against lands since a while... actually since A LOT, (probably when deathrite was still legal) since in my local area only one player used to play that deck and dropped it for a while.
Now the nightmare is back, and it's me or game one is almost unbeatable?
even post board I struggle...
Generally it is about 20/80 pre board. Post board if you run Blood Moon and Surgical it can be like 40/60. Beware of Choke post board ;)
I see that the GP list pretty much all had the same sideboard plan
so blood moon (pretty obvious), a lonely spell pierce and 2 bitterblossom
What are the indication of these choices?
I never liked the lonely pierce, seems weak running a lonely "early/mid game counter" in a deck that is slow as grixis
What about bitterblossom? I personally run Engineered plague in the board, so I don't fear that much, I can't remove the blossom, they can't remove the plague /mirror match speaking/ I win
It's also blanked by Liliana the last hope, wheter we are speaking of the mirror or against grixis delver.
Surely it's helpful against miracle, but, is that the only real application or I am missing other uses?
When did this thread just off and die - Is Grixis Control still a DTB?
I think barely anyone uses forums these days to discuss decks. Most people tend to prefer Discord. Grixis Control is very much still a DTB, though. It's steadily putting up results and the last few months it's always in the top 5 decks (check TCdecks, for example). Anyways, if you've got Discord, I'm one of the mods there (Arafúra) and you're absolutely welcome to join us:
- https://discord.gg/GuBX4wd
More so that you lose money when tech gets stolen by posting it on forums.
There are so many rats and thieves in the world these days that trusting even the owner of the board is impossible. Like seeing some e-celebrity shuffling your exact 75 because you left the list somewhere, before you had a chance to surprise somebody with it.
Discord is just as bad.
Any thoughts on Bob Huang's 25th place on the Legacy Challenge of two weeks ago?
2 Jace, the Mind Sculptor
2 Narset, Parter of Veils
4 Dreadhorde Arcanist
3 Snapcaster Mage
2 True-Name Nemesis
4 Ponder
2 Preordain
2 Thoughtseize
4 Brainstorm
2 Fatal Push
4 Force of Will
2 Kolaghan's Command
4 Lightning Bolt
2 Liliana's Triumph
1 Badlands
2 Bloodstained Mire
3 Polluted Delta
4 Prismatic Vista
3 Scalding Tarn
4 Snow-Covered Island
1 Snow-Covered Mountain
1 Snow-Covered Swamp
1 Underground Sea
1 Volcanic Island
2 Thoughtseize
2 Back to Basics
1 Engineered Explosives
1 Hydroblast
4 Leyline of the Void
2 Plague Engineer
1 Pyroblast
2 Red Elemental Blast
I personally like the less-boring approach to the deck, and Arcanist is the real value machine. I'd play a slight different manabase, though, and maybe replacing B2B with Moons.
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