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    Re: [Primer] R/G Lands

    So we get a planeswalker and it is pre-ordering for $40 already... love it.

    edit: Just saw the Tom Ross article...

    Here is the list he suggested

    3 Wrenn and Six
    1 Blast Zone
    4 Thespian's Stage
    1 Bojuka Bog
    1 Misty Rainforest
    1 Verdant Catacombs
    3 Punishing Fire
    4 Grove of the Burnwillows
    3 Dark Depths
    1 Ghost Quarter
    4 Life from the Loam
    3 Tranquil Thicket
    1 Wooded Foothills
    1 Forest
    1 Barbarian Ring
    3 Rishadan Port
    4 Crop Rotation
    4 Exploration
    3 Gamble
    4 Mox Diamond
    4 Wasteland
    2 Maze of Ith
    1 Karakas
    1 The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale
    2 Taiga

    Sideboard
    1 Thorn of Amethyst
    3 Krosan Grip
    1 Ancient Grudge
    4 Sphere of Resistance
    1 Ancient Tomb
    2 Choke
    1 Glacial Chasm
    2 Sylvan Library

    Obviously a lot wrong with the list, but could be a starting point.
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    Re: [Primer] R/G Lands

    Quote Originally Posted by lavafrogg View Post
    edit: Just saw the Tom Ross article...
    Do you have a link, please? Can't find it.

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    Re: [Primer] R/G Lands

    karakas and 4 moxes enough white for this?


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    If it's real, I'm switching out one of the cyclers for Scattered Groves. I'm also running Solemnity main.
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    How does Solemnity work with Dark Depths?

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    Quote Originally Posted by moseby View Post
    How does Solemnity work with Dark Depths?
    It comes in without the counters, triggers, dies. You get Lage.
    It is better to ask and look stupid then keep your mouth shut and remain so.
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    Re: [Primer] R/G Lands

    that land is strong for us.
    already good ideas bouncing around; being able to replay drop of honey is gonna be gross.

    EDIT: or how about choke?

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    Quote Originally Posted by non-inflammable View Post
    that land is strong for us.
    already good ideas bouncing around; being able to replay drop of honey is gonna be gross.

    EDIT: or how about choke?
    Beeing able to replay a cheaper Drop of Honey feel even better! #Porphyry Nodes


    I mean, this land is maybe the thing that we missed for playing effectively white in this shell.

    White sources

    - Karakas
    - Scattered Groves and/or Horizon Canopy
    - 4 Mox
    - 1 Savannah (?)
    - Riftstone Portal (edit: thanks Monkey_Island)

    With one Porphyry & Solemnity maindeck? And access to white in the sideboard? Can't be that bad!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkgobs View Post
    With one Porphyry & Solemnity maindeck? And access to white in the sideboard? Can't be that bad!
    yeah, i bought my foil nodes when drop exploded in price a few years back...

    gonna be some sweet brews; i've already been running 3 thalia out of the board alongside 3 trackers...

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    Re: [Primer] R/G Lands

    Riftstone Portal is also very cool for access to white mana.

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    Re: [Primer] R/G Lands

    1) So, we could very well try to go heavy on white. I will test that for sure. Does someone already have a starting list? Because I remember that some people here were already testing some white splash in the deck. so the insight could help us test more efficiently.


    2) On another note, this could see some plays for us, no? :


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    Quote Originally Posted by moseby View Post
    How does Solemnity work with Dark Depths?
    Selemnity isn't good just with Depth, it's a lock with Glacial Chasm too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Obferraz View Post
    Selemnity isn't good just with Depth, it's a lock with Glacial Chasm too.
    I can't believe I didn't come to this by myself. This lock, supported by Hall of Heliod's Generosity, could be quite the hell of an option against TNN.

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    On Solemnity.
    There are three cards we play with it interacts with. Positively with Chasm and Depths. Negatively with Tracker.

    It also stops Walking Ballista, more or less all of Men of Steel and your opponents Depths.

    It's not a solid win in, but I think it's something, with Depths and Chasm.

    On the Throes of Chaos, I really really like that card.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dice_Box View Post
    On Solemnity.
    There are three cards we play with it interacts with. Positively with Chasm and Depths. Negatively with Tracker.

    It also stops Walking Ballista, more or less all of Men of Steel and your opponents Depths.

    It's not a solid win in, but I think it's something, with Depths and Chasm.

    On the Throes of Chaos, I really really like that card.
    HHG May open a door to GW lands/enchantress(less) prision. Drop R, with punishing and gamble and add thing like solemnity and elephant grass. Leyline of santicity in the side would be cool too, lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Obferraz View Post
    HHG May open a door to GW lands/enchantress(less) prision. Drop R, with punishing and gamble and add thing like solemnity and elephant grass. Leyline of santicity in the side would be cool too, lol.
    Dropping R is an option, but I don't think we need to do that: We have always been quite good at splashing a 3rd color, and gamble / punishing fire are quite important.

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    Re: [Primer] R/G Lands

    I think I said this is the discord, but I prefer the Source, I am going to try and stay RG with main deck Wren. Current List I am testing:

    Acceleration(8)
    4 Mox Diamond
    4 Exploration

    Spells(18)
    4 Life From the Loam
    4 Crop Rotation
    4 Gamble
    3 Punishing Fire
    3 Wren and Six

    Lands(34)
    4 Thespian Stage
    4 Dark Depths
    1 Verdant Catacombs
    1 Misty Rainforest
    1 Windswept Heath
    2 Taiga
    1 Sheltered Thicket
    1 Horizon Canopy
    1 Tranquil Thicket
    4 Wasteland
    4 Rishidan Port
    1 Ghost Quarter
    1 Tabernacle at Pendrel Vale
    2 Maze of Ith
    1 Blast Zone
    1 Barbarian Ring
    4 Grove of the Burnwillows

    Sideboard(15)
    3 Force of Vigor
    2 Choke
    3 Tireless Tracker
    4 Sphere of Resistance
    1 Karakas
    1 Bojuka Bog
    1 Ancient Tomb

    I cut the utility lands and the libraries to play full into Wren, as the card makes punishing fire take down 3/5 toughness creatures and Wren also turbo charges Life from the Loam, with additional dredge triggers through cycle lands. The full 4 gamble lets you tutor for lands directly to return with either wren or loam depending on the situation.

    I am not super into the GRw/GW builds at the time as needing to race most combo decks game 1 leads to 4 depths/4 gamble/straight combo but I could see a minimal white splash with the karakas main and a GW cycle land for the enchantment land and maybe 1-2 bullets.
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    Experimental, probably bad:

    5c lands

    3x Wrenn and Six
    4x Mox Diamond
    4x Life from the Loam
    3x Punishing Fire
    4x Exploration
    3x Gamble
    1x Faithless Looting
    4x Entomb
    3x Lion's Eye Diamond
    3x Echoes of Eons
    1x Manabond
    4x Grove of the Burnwillows
    4x Wasteland
    4x Rishadan Port
    1x Blast Zone
    1x Dark Depths
    1x Thespian Stage
    1x Bojuka Bog
    2x Maze of Ith
    1x Nurturing Peatland
    1x Sheltered Thicket
    2x Taiga
    1x Bayou
    1x Volcanic Island
    4x Wooded Foothills
    1x Forest
    3x City of Brass
    1x Ghost Quarter
    1x Hall of Heliod’s Generosity


    Added Entomb, LED and Twisters, removed Crop Rotation and reduced the Dark Depths combo to 2 slots. Heresy? Perhaps. The idea is to dump your hand and Twist into a new hand and overwhelm your opponent's board state..

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    Re: [Primer] R/G Lands

    Quote Originally Posted by bruizar View Post
    Experimental, probably bad:

    5c lands

    3x Wrenn and Six
    4x Mox Diamond
    4x Life from the Loam
    3x Punishing Fire
    4x Exploration
    3x Gamble
    1x Faithless Looting
    4x Entomb
    3x Lion's Eye Diamond
    3x Echoes of Eons
    1x Manabond
    4x Grove of the Burnwillows
    4x Wasteland
    4x Rishadan Port
    1x Blast Zone
    1x Dark Depths
    1x Thespian Stage
    1x Bojuka Bog
    2x Maze of Ith
    1x Nurturing Peatland
    1x Sheltered Thicket
    2x Taiga
    1x Bayou
    1x Volcanic Island
    4x Wooded Foothills
    1x Forest
    3x City of Brass
    1x Ghost Quarter
    1x Hall of Heliod’s Generosity


    Added Entomb, LED and Twisters, removed Crop Rotation and reduced the Dark Depths combo to 2 slots. Heresy? Perhaps. The idea is to dump your hand and Twist into a new hand and overwhelm your opponent's board state..
    I think we would need to find a better payoff, isn’t their a Land-Naueseum deck that already exists?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dice_Box View Post
    On Solemnity.
    There are three cards we play with it interacts with. Positively with Chasm and Depths. Negatively with Tracker.

    It also stops Walking Ballista, more or less all of Men of Steel and your opponents Depths.

    It's not a solid win in, but I think it's something, with Depths and Chasm.

    On the Throes of Chaos, I really really like that card.
    Unfortunately Solemnity also interacts unfavorably with Blast Zone. That said, I'm a huge fan of the card and will be testing it. Also love Throes of Chaos if only for the flavor, art, and effect.

    Quote Originally Posted by bruizar View Post
    Experimental, probably bad:

    5c lands

    Added Entomb, LED and Twisters, removed Crop Rotation and reduced the Dark Depths combo to 2 slots. Heresy? Perhaps. The idea is to dump your hand and Twist into a new hand and overwhelm your opponent's board state..
    This just looks sweet. I'll never not applaud a 5C Lands list. 👏

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