[EDH] Dragonlord Silumgar

[Davran]

Blue black steal your girl/control hybrid that's basically trying to out-value opponents by straight up taking their stuff and using it against them. There's a minor flicker thing going on too, since flickering what you steal with Silumgar means you get to keep it, and flickering stuff like Hostage Taker or Gonti, Lord of Luxury is usually pretty good.

Commander:
Dragonlord Silumgar

Creatures:
Baleful Strix
Gilded Drake
Snapcaster Mage
Chasm Skulker
Plaguecrafter
Trophy Mage
Royal Assassin
Thief of Sanity
Phyrexian Metamorph
Ravenous Chupacabra
Solemn Simulacrum
Vizier of Many Faces
Hostage Taker
Gonti, Lord of Luxury
Tradewind Rider
Mulldrifter
Havengul Lich
Mesmerizing Benthid
Gray Merchant of Asphodel
Massacre Wurm
Consecrated Sphinx
Deadeye Navigator
Nezahal, Primal Tide

Instants:
Vampiric Tutor
Swan Song
Cyclonic Rift
Go for the Throat
Soul Manipulation
Hero's Downfall
Ghostly Flicker
Stroke of Genius
Fact or Fiction
Memory Plunder
Insidious Will
Mystic Confluence
Wretched Confluence

Sorcery:
Reanimate
Ponder
Esxanguinate
Demonic Tutor
Toxic Deluge
Notion Rain
Damnation
Rite of Replication
Beacon of Unrest
Entreat the Dead

Artifacts:
Sol Ring
Expedition Map
Thought Vessel
Dimir Signet
Talisman of Dominance
Mimic Vat
Unstable Obelisk
Oblivion Stone
Crystal Ball
Proteus Staff
Tawnos's Coffin
Conjurer's Closet

Enchantments:
Search for Azcanta
Oversold Cemetery
Phyrexian Arena
Mind's Dilation

Lands:
Watery Grave
Sunken Hollow
Fetid Pools
Polluted Delta
Bad River
Drowned Catacomb
Sunken Ruins
Underground River
Darkslick Shores
Creeping Tar Pit
Dimir Aqueduct
Temple of Deceit
River of Tears
Command Tower
Reliquary Tower
Bojuka Bog
High Market
Arcane Lighthouse
Volrath's Stronghold
Strip Mine
Academy Ruins
8 Island
8 Swamp

[Killane]

Is Mindslaver recursion even really all that bad? It gets shut down by graveyard hate, non-basic land hate, artifact hate, misc hate like Pithing Needle, and it costs 12 mana (plus using Ruins, so effectively 13 mana). It's a true late-game WinCon, I really don't get why people whine about it so much.

[Davran]

Is Mindslaver recursion even really all that bad? It gets shut down by graveyard hate, non-basic land hate, artifact hate, misc hate like Pithing Needle, and it costs 12 mana (plus using Ruins, so effectively 13 mana). It's a true late-game WinCon, I really don't get why people whine about it so much.

I agree with you completely. That said, how reasonable of a win con is slaver locking someone anyway? Seems to me like you just end up playing quasi-2 headed giant while you take on the other two players by playing two decks at once. I've been playing Mindslaver as a sort of "punishment" for people who I feel have been overly aggressive toward me during the game. Everyone who wasn't just slavered has a laugh or two as I blunder through messing up their board as much as possible and the game moves on. Doing it over and over again for "value" seems like kind of a dick move.

[Davran]

I've really been having a blast with this deck. A couple minor changes:

- Extract from Darkness, + Beacon of Unrest

Beacon seems like a pretty easy upgrade here. I like Extract as a card, but the mill is usually irrelevant. Plus, Beacon can grab an artifact and shuffles itself back in.

- Illusionist's Gambit, + Makeshift Mannequin

Neither of these cards is particularly stellar, but Mannequin seems like it will be more relevant more often than a 4 mana fog.

- Mindslaver, + Puppeteer Clique

Mindslaver brought me all kinds of hate and salt despite having no way to actually recur it, so it's out. I suppose it's for the best as the thing is clunky and fairly meh as a 1-of effect.

- Island, + Academy Ruins

No more Mindslaver means I can run this with 100% less guilt. Win-win.

[Davran]

Necroing the hell out of this thread because I keep coming back to this deck for whatever reason. It's together for a while, then it's apart for something else...but I keep putting it back together again so there must be something here. The list in the OP is basically all new because my old one wasn't very good.

I'm really keen on getting Ghostly Flicker in here, but I'm not sure what the cut is yet. I might also pick up a Mission Briefing at some point since it's basically a second Snapcaster Mage for me.

Finally, I'm not sold on my fatties at all. Consecrated Sphinx is certainly the best one, but maybe Deadeye Navigator should be in there somewhere since it's OK with some of my creatures. I just wish it did more with Silumgar.

[ronco]

Deadeye is basically another, bigger version of Nephalia Smuggler, no? Seems to be a good, repeatable flicker effect if you can find the room for it.