You are correct on all points. It turns out there are consequences to being a rapist. This one was just unforeseen, but entirely reasonable.Originally Posted by firebadmattgood
Yeah, but should we really judge people based on their actions??? It's not like he was raping someone during the GP. /sarcasm
So this isn't about a company distancing themselves from a rapist, it's about ethics in WotC's banning policy?
People aren't outraged that he could banned for it (I think it's a perfectly acceptable decision to protect their brand), but that he was only banned after some twitter drama for something he has done 10 years ago - and he was rehabilitated. Wizards was fine with him playing before. It was public information that he's a sex offender.
Don't make Chapin's crime appear harmless. Dealing with 10k+ ecstasy pills isn't a minor deal, either.
On the one hand, there are events like the disqualified miracles player who rolled a die to see if they should draw a T8 game (letting his mulled-to-5 opponent draw back up to 7), or Chapin's camera match "it touched your hand it's a draw" game loss, or LSV drawing an extra card on a Glimpse turn against Sam Black. In those cases, the Judge's have concluded, "Sorry, we know exactly what happened and why and that it was accidental and easy to perfectly fix, but we have these airtight rules and there is no recourse for so-called 'common sense.'"
Then, there are actions like this which correspond to the internet visibility of an issue, rather than any reference to consistent policy.
It is not a false equivalence at all.
"Kill the pushers" is a statement that has been immortalized to me. I grew up, and continue to live, in an area, a community, festered with drugs and drug problems. My roommate is a recovering addict. He had a wife, a house, a job, and twin daughters. Then he had a crippling addiction and an illustrious off-and-on career at Cheese Boy's and other charitable businesses. It's only after eleven years, after losing everything and alienating the family that he helped create, that he's finally getting back on his feet. He's since devoted himself, body and soul, to helping the rest of the world get on theirs.
He runs two sober houses and goes out of his way to staff the insulation company that he manages with only men who are on the process to being recovered. Every waking moment that he is not at work or trying to buy his daughters' forgiveness, he is making housecalls to deal with or is on the phone dealing with the neverending stream of men and women who relapse or otherwise continue wasting away every day. Including dealing with his sister who would rather abandon her son for days on end to "have fun" rather than take responsibility and do better than getting fired from Pizza Hut on a monthy basis.
Don't tell me drug felonies aren't as important. Don't boil it down to a "life choice". Don't marginalize it because it's "just ecstasy".
The tournament I started is over. You should join the next one.
I agree, addiction is terrible. Your friend's story wouldn't be any worse if his issues were with alcohol, and it would still be wrong to compare liquor store operators to rapists.
It is though. Violent crime =/= nonviolent crime.
Sorry to hear about you friend.
Drew Levin is an incredibly stiff, annoying, nasally voiced, little girl crying for any attention. That wasn't a public safety reminder. It was Drew begging for attention.
And irrelevant.
And rape isn't always violent.
The tournament I started is over. You should join the next one.
Liquor store operators don't break the law, while drug dealers do. Just like there's a difference between consensual sex and rape. One thing is perfectly fine and legal while the other one is a heavy crime that ruins lives.
You can't just marginalize a major drug dealer just like that.
I think that's a pretty weak reasoning. You do harm to the consumers, although indirectly by selling the drugs. And Chapin most likely harmed alot more people with his little stunt than Zach Jesse. But in the end, we're comparing apples with oranges here.
Chapin would likely still be locked away if the key witness against him hadn't died right before testifying. I'm not going to pretend that I know the whole story, but you can see some of the information of Chapin's case online, and I would be reluctant to just write off his criminal organization as a nonviolent crime or somehow less severe than a sexual assault.
You mean like it's a false equivalence?
Example?
Nope.You mean like it's a false equivalence?
Both are different crimes, but both are also felonies. My point is that I wouldn't argue that a major drug dealer is a better person than a rapist. Both are shitty people and neither crime should be excused or marginalized.
It'd be one thing if he was actually sorry for what he did or knew what he did was wrong. He's very obviously not though. It's always "the incident", "the mistake". That post he wrote on reddit was one of the most scummy manipulative things I've ever read. If he's sorry about anything, it's that he's sorry there were consequences.
What a piece of garbage, good fucking riddance.
“It's possible. But it involves... {checks archives} Nature's Revolt, Opalescence, two Unstable Shapeshifters (one of which started as a Doppelganger), a Tide, an animated land, a creature with Fading, a Silver Wyvern, some way to get a creature into play in response to stuff, some way to get a land into play in response to stuff (a different land from the animated land), and one heck of a Rube Goldberg timing diagram.”
-David DeLaney
Let's all just take this as a reminder to talk to our sons about not raping girls. Then something good comes out of this.
His parents obviously didn't.
Jesse's parents also blame the alcohol, and say they are "thankful both [Zachary and the victim] are alive."
“It's possible. But it involves... {checks archives} Nature's Revolt, Opalescence, two Unstable Shapeshifters (one of which started as a Doppelganger), a Tide, an animated land, a creature with Fading, a Silver Wyvern, some way to get a creature into play in response to stuff, some way to get a land into play in response to stuff (a different land from the animated land), and one heck of a Rube Goldberg timing diagram.”
-David DeLaney
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