[Article] A look back at GP Lille

[HSCK]

nice article, but id prefer to stay to the real names of the decks and not use grixis, sultai or whatever stupid names wotc tried to shove down our throats and i refuse to learn or use them.

I'm not sure why any writer should care about this, especially any writer with an editorial mandate that a lot of major sites have.

[rufus]

Those are the real names now. BUG and RUG are the only ones that really flow off the tongue well enough for the old name to stick. ...

That's because as part of the 'awesome' program, WotC decided to make blue the only color that has a vowel abbreviation.

[jrsthethird]

no, theyre not. first of all, its much easier to know the colorcombination by just naming the colors it uses. also in the article he uses the actual names of the decks like canadian and team america but in the metabreakdown he uses sultai and shit.

also i never heard anybody using ceta-, raka-, ana-delver, although its even more fluid than the new wedgecrap.

Wizards didn't push the Ceta, Raka, etc. stuff very hard, as each was only used in one cycle in each color for each rarity (obligatory Time Spiral block exception: Ana Battlemage). This, as opposed to focusing an entire block and story around arc combinations/wedge combinations like in Shards or in Khans. The names were an identity of the sets, as opposed to some cute cycles.

(Aside for newbs: Ana Disciple, Ana Sanctuary, Anavolver were the green ones. Dega, Ceta, Necra, and Raka were the other prefixes, for W, U, B, R, respectfully.)

Also, I don't remember the backlash (maybe I wasn't very active at the time) during Shards for the arc colors, but everyone seems to be totally fine with Bant, Esper, Grixis, Jund, Naya now, so why would the wedge combinations be any different in a few years? It's obvious there's no use fighting the change. So deal with it.

I'll give you the point on consistency within the article though. That, and if the community has been calling the deck Team America or Canadian Thresh for 10 years, why rename it now? That's dumb. Perhaps Wizards forcefeeds it too much with their coverage and it leaves a bad aftertaste. The names themselves are fine.

That's because as part of the 'awesome' program, WotC decided to make blue the only color that has a vowel abbreviation.

Even so, WUB, WUR, WUG, RUB, BUR, WRU, URB, or BRU sound pretty ridiculous. ;)

[Einherjer]

Nice article.

I think it would be even better if you went over your matches in the GP in brief form so we can see how your Miracles list did on a matchup by matchup basis, as well.

Thanks!

The problem with this is sample size. At a GP you can win MUs that were below 40% in testing and still lose against a deck that is indeed a 55%+ MU. I have to admit that I do not think that it'd have added anything, I'm sorry. :)

nice article, but id prefer to stay to the real names of the decks and not use grixis, sultai or whatever stupid names wotc tried to shove down our throats and i refuse to learn or use them.

Thanks!

I'm terribly sorry but isn't "Grixis" a term that we Legacy players use? I mean I didn't use Sultai/Temur or anything, but Grixis is second nature to me, to be perfectly honest.

I think you're really improving as a writer (at least in English, sorry that I haven't read anything you've written in German) and that this article was by far your most engaging and interesting.

Thank you very much! :)

It means a lot to me!

Greetings

[Humphrey]

I'm terribly sorry but isn't "Grixis" a term that we Legacy players use? I mean I didn't use Sultai/Temur or anything, but Grixis is second nature to me, to be perfectly honest.

Im playing Legacy since ever and I have no clue what color combination Grixis (RBX?) or the other stuff is. I only know Esper and Bant because those were popular decks without individual names and Naya because of Nacatl.

[Admiral_Arzar]

Im playing Legacy since ever and I have no clue what color combination Grixis (RBX?) or the other stuff is. I only know Esper and Bant because those were popular decks without individual names and Naya because of Nacatl.

Grixis control was a popular deck in the Alara/Zendikar standard season (and yes, that is what is was called - I played it a ton), and people have been trying to play that deck in Modern since ever, so it's been around. Grixis was MUCH more common and successful than Esper in standard (Esper was really the only shard that didn't produce a strong standard deck). When that color combination started making rounds in Legacy some time ago, the name was adopted because most people were already familiar with it. You apparently weren't, but I'm not sure how you weren't - perhaps pull your head out of the sand once in a while?

[Humphrey]

I play Legacy not Standard. Ive no idea whats going on in that format. The last time I noticed a deck from standard was with SFM and Jace. Why should I care on Legacyforum??

[Admiral_Arzar]

I play Legacy not Standard. Ive no idea whats going on in that format. The last time I noticed a deck from standard was with SFM and Jace. Why should I care on Legacyforum??

So you never open spoilers or previews to see if cards in new sets are good in Legacy? You never try and port strategies from other formats? Narrow-minded, elitist, and idiotic sounds about right. Welcome to my ignore list, it's far overdue.

[Julian23]

[Blastoderm]

Im playing Legacy since ever and I have no clue what color combination Grixis (RBX?) or the other stuff is. I only know Esper and Bant because those were popular decks without individual names and Naya because of Nacatl.

Esper, Bant, Grixis, Jund and Naya are all from the same block. How can you not know what Grixis Delver is by now?

[Richard Cheese]

The hell is happening here? It looks like a really tall duck wearing a shirt is about to start some shit with an old Amish guy.

[Humphrey]

So you never open spoilers or previews to see if cards in new sets are good in Legacy? You never try and port strategies from other formats? Narrow-minded, elitist, and idiotic sounds about right. Welcome to my ignore list, it's far overdue.

I look at every new set to see if there are any interesting cards for eternal or lately mostly for cube. But yes, I never try to port strategies from a format with a handful of legal cards to a format with ~25.000 legal cards...

But Im glad im on your ignore list, since your comments makes no sense whatsoever to me. Elitist? Because I refuse to play a watered down demo version of magic aka standard. Or because im not elitist enough to know all formats, all cards and every shit to figure what artificial names are the latest bandwagon?


And like I said. Esper and Bant were called like this in legacy from the beginning, so I know them. I cant remember Jund or Grixis being successful. Until now, it seems.

[plowshares]

I'm fine with the Alara shard names, because they don't sound like abortions. The new wedge names however...not so much. I'll be damned if i'm gonna use Femur, Jetski, Slutty, Azkaban, or Marmaduke.

[iamajellydonut]

And like I said. Esper and Bant were called like this in legacy from the beginning, so I know them. I cant remember Jund [...] being successful. Until now, it seems.

Except for, ya know, seven years of off and on history. No big deal.

[Humphrey]

Except for, ya know, seven years of off and on history. No big deal.

Has any Jund deck won any bigger tournament or even an scg? And Grixis wasnt a deck before DRS, right?

[danyul]

Humphrey, you're being a curmudgeonly old man right now and your out-of-touch-iosity is distracting from actual commentary on the article. Just do a quick Google search on "Grixis" or "Jund" or "tempo" or whatever to understand the context and then continue reading the piece. I do the same thing when I read actual news and have to Google up words longer than 7 characters. Let's just keep it movin, pimpin. You can take this crusade to a more appropriate place instead of burning another 1.5 pages of this thread on this tomfoolery.

Nice article, Philipp. You keep making quality stuff and you're super accessible to your readers. You are a boon to the Legacy community.

[Einherjer]

Nice article, Philipp. You keep making quality stuff and you're super accessible to your readers. You are a boon to the Legacy community.

Thank you very much, Sir! It means a lot to me! :)

Greetings

[bruizar]

I'm fine with the Alara shard names, because they don't sound like abortions. The new wedge names however...not so much. I'll be damned if i'm gonna use Femur, Jetski, Slutty, Azkaban, or Marmaduke.

Now those are names that I endorse

[looreenzoo]

People claiming to play Legacy "since ever" and pretending not to know what Grixis means <3

[Higgs]

I look at every new set to see if there are any interesting cards for eternal or lately mostly for cube. But yes, I never try to port strategies from a format with a handful of legal cards to a format with ~25.000 legal cards...

But Im glad im on your ignore list, since your comments makes no sense whatsoever to me. Elitist? Because I refuse to play a watered down demo version of magic aka standard. Or because im not elitist enough to know all formats, all cards and every shit to figure what artificial names are the latest bandwagon?


And like I said. Esper and Bant were called like this in legacy from the beginning, so I know them. I cant remember Jund or Grixis being successful. Until now, it seems.

I'm with you buddy. Never care or spend any time looking at any Standard decks. Barely skim over the spoilers for new sets when they look interesting (Origins looked great btw, I really liked the flavor, art etc.) Couldn't care less if people think this is narrow minded or elitist. It is pathetic if they think this is idiotic. This is a fucking game and I get to choose how I spend my time on it the way I enjoy it.