Hey guys,
I sat down with Niklas Kronberger and Christoph Alsheimer to tackle the new kid on the block, Punishing Blue!
Let me know what you think, I'd also appreciate it if you left the comment at the article itself so other readers can potentially benefit from your comments/questions and my responses.
Thanks! :)
Greetings
Not a fan of the attempt at renaming the archetype. Everybody knows what Aggro Loam is and "Punishing X" seems fairly established as "Punishing Fire + X" so 'Punishing Blue' sounds like a control deck with PFire and Islands.
It's more Aggro than the other notable Loam deck, I feel that's a sufficient distinction.
Apart from that I thought the rest was good, but somebody really needs to have a word with your editor because there's zero reason why the main body of a web article should be in 24pt font.
Thanks for writing, enjoyed the read (again).
I'm not entirely sold on the deckname 'Punishing blue' though . It makes me think of Painter, Sylvan Plug, decks running maindeck hate like chokes or REBs, being geared to literally punish blue. The only 'blue hatred' this 4c loamdeck packs maindeck are the chalices, and although brainstorm and ponder are blue, there are loads of other nonblue- 1cc staplecards (it's rather 'Punishing One' ).
Anyways, just nitpicking, really glad some nonblue decks are performing well these days!
I liked the shout out to all the non-blue mages. I already picked this deck up and am loving it! If only more people would try out something different than Brainstorm-Ponder...
Maybe the name should be something like 4C Control, Knight Control, Punishing Control? The deck is full-blown control rather than aggro and Loam is not realy the centerpiece anymore (like it used to be with even Burning wishes maindeck).
Nice in-depth look at this deck. 4-color Loam, Aggro Loam, Punishing Blue - in Danish we have a saying which translates into "an endeared child has many names". I don't really care too much about deck naming tbh.
As a storm player at heart I hope this deck doesn't gain any real traction, but it definitely feels a lot better than what is currently reflected by how few people play this compared to other archetypes.
Aggro Loam has come a long way from it's beginnings where it looked like this.
The seven cardinal sins of Legacy:
1. Discuss the unbanning ofLand TaxEarthcraft.
2. Argue that banning Force of Will would make the format healthier.
3. Play Brainstorm without Fetchlands.
4. Stifle Standstill.
5. Think that Gaea's Blessing will make you Solidarity-proof.
6. Pass priority after playing Infernal Tutor.
7. Fail to playtest against Nourishing Lich (coZ iT wIlL gEt U!).
The best part of these new Loam decks? People speak of engine decks where the whole deck is an engine. These things? Yeah, the cards interact with each other to achieve greatness and be more than the sum of their parts. But if you look at the deck, just about every card in the deck is an engine in itself, which is just lovely. It's an engine of engines.
Originally Posted by Lemnear
I thought this was a URx punishing Fire deck from the name.
What's wrong with 4c Loam since uh that's exactly what it is.
Bardo, Site AdminNowhere do you see: Efficient Answers to Other Cards. Force and MMS will never be banned. Deal.
Good article, although I will admit I thought I was about to read about Miracles with Punishing Fire after seeing the title .
Nice read =)! Would be great if you could keep the articles comming for more weeks to come
But the name 'Punishing Blue' made me think of a 'golddigger' type of deck I played a while ago, with 3 grove and 3 punishing fire ^^ (which worked pretty well btw, but is sooooo slow). But yeah, a new name does make a lot of sense (all though I like the long history within the name 'Aggro Loam').
And why is everyone suddenly ignoring Elves as a non-blue competator and only speaking of Lands and now Aggro Loam? I know the meta is quite hostile atm, but it's still making plenty of more then decent results!
Because Elves is legitimately awful in a metagame dominated by Miracles and Omitell (with a nice helping of Storm on the side). Even great Elves players like Julian have switched to other decks. DnT is also not super well placed right now - both of those decks thrive in fair metas.
Names fine, it hardly feels like a Loam deck, just a deck that plays loam because it's great against fair blue strategies not named Counterbalance, that and if I were to say the name is bad, it would only be reasonable I suggest one and all the ones I can think of are really lame or just pornographic enough to be unacceptable
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