Oh I have the tracking numbers. I ordered on the 3rd, tracking says it wasn't picked up until the 8th. Other one was printed on the 5th, which was Monday, so not bad. I just moved and I don't have a convenient post office; I forget sometimes that there isn't a 24/7 APC 5 minutes from everybody's house like there was at home.Originally Posted by iamajellydonut
Vise seems terribly unimpressive overall.
Just played against Burn which ran it. G2 it dealt some damage since I had a rather slow start and I was on the play.
But on G3, I mulled once, played Plains + Mom on T1 and it remained dead for the entire match-up without dealing a single damage.
This brew list is pretty fun, and competitive too.
4 Black Vise
4 Void Snare
4 Overburden
4 Vision Skeins
4 Words of Wisdom
4 Boomerang
4 Howling mine
4 Ebony owl Netsuke
4 Mana Breach
4 Wipe Away
20 Islands
Guess 4x trinket mage could be useful given that you have no business if you dont get the thingy
"You either die a Onesto-Player, or live long enough to see yourself become a Dredger"
I figured out the problem. I bought them from Dan Bock. FML.
Dan Bock is the scum of the earth. Not surprising.
From nothing came teeth.
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Joined just to let us know?
"The Ancients teach us that if we can but last, we shall prevail."
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Nah, I plan on sticking around and contributing, but since I've had bad experiences with him before it seemed as good of a time as ever to chime in.Join Date: Oct 2015
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Joined just to let us know?
From nothing came teeth.
It's all good man, just thought it was kind of funny. Enjoy your stay. Maybe in a few years Dan will come and quote your post, he does have an account here.
"The Ancients teach us that if we can but last, we shall prevail."
—Kaysa, Elder Druid of the Juniper Order
Maybe:
//Mono U ViseGrip
4 Black Vise
4 Howling Mine
4 Chain of Vapor
4 Force of Will
4 Daze
3 Misdirection
4 Stasis
4 Brainstorm
4 Ponder
4 Preordain
4 Forbidden City
4 Scalding Tarn
2 Polluted Delta
7 Island
Alternately, you can play
//Mono U Trololol
4 Black Vise
4 Ankh of Mishra
4 Howling Mine
4 Winter Orb
4 Overburden
4 Mana Breach
4 Void Snare
4 Preordain
4 Ponder
4 Propaganda
3 City of Traitors
3 Ancient Tomb
14 Island
If you're gonna go the annoying bouncy bouncy route you should use some of MUCs(bouncy edition) tech like snapcaster mage + curfew, CB+SDT and as usual if you're mono blue then back to basics is a killer.
Sort of comes down to vise+owl vs Jace/TNN/Clique. They're cheaper and dodge creature hate, but are not such big bombs.
Devastation Tide's probably too bad with vise.
Day's Undoing is a card to consider.
I have had lots of success reverting a prison/mill that I had back to the casual version, with plenty of vises...
2 Mox Diamond
2 Mox Opal
4 Black Vise
2 Spellbook
4 Vapor Snag
4 Boomerang
3 Counterspell
4 Daze
4 Howling Mine
3 Winter Orb
2 Propaganda
3 Font of Mythos
2 Invoke Prejudice
2 Pendrell Mists
3 Thwart
16 Island
The howling mines/fonts are probably more important to get on the board than winter orb after re-introducing the vise as a win strategy. Might throw Stasis in for a few turns of fun, too.
This is ye olde-school control magic...
Best Vise interaction I have had yet:
I have Vise on the board. Opponent plays show and tell, into omniscience, into Enter the Infinite, into Emrakul. Extra turn trigger, he moves into next turn holding his whole deck. Hahaha. Whoops.
So SB tech against a severely weakened deck? Seems good.
Also: lol
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