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    Foreign Cards at Competitive REL

    Now that you can't use electronic devices during a match at competitive REL anymore, is there a way to provide yourself or opponent with translations for obscure foreign cards other than judge calls? I found this in the tournament rules:

    Players may refer to Oracle text, either electronically or in paper form, at any time. They must do so publicly and
    in a format (such as gatherer.wizards.com, other official Wizards of the Coast sources, or printouts of their
    sources) which contains no other strategic information. If a player wishes to view Oracle text in private, he or she
    must ask a judge.
    Does that mean you can use your phone as long as you're just checking oracle wording in view of both players? If paper form is acceptable, can you just print proxies as long as you keep them separate from your deck?
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    Re: Foreign Cards at Competitive REL

    I don't know about checking your mobile, but I do know one of the judges locally said to those that headed to the GP in Japan to print up Proxies. They where in Japanese, in off colour sleeves printed in black and white. No issues came of them from what I am told.
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    Re: Foreign Cards at Competitive REL

    Talk to the judge to get oracle text.

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    Re: Foreign Cards at Competitive REL

    Quote Originally Posted by Richard Cheese View Post
    Now that you can't use electronic devices during a match at competitive REL anymore, is there a way to provide yourself or opponent with translations for obscure foreign cards other than judge calls? I found this in the tournament rules:

    Does that mean you can use your phone as long as you're just checking oracle wording in view of both players? If paper form is acceptable, can you just print proxies as long as you keep them separate from your deck?
    Normally you just call a judge. The proxy idea Dice confirmed seems fine.

    Most of the time if someone isn't familiar with my Italian Chains of Meph, I just summarize it in magic-speak* and then go as far as to suggest they call a judge if they're even remotely unfamiliar. This means when they see the oracle text they'll hopefully understand how everything works; rather than just be confused.

    *It replaces extra card draws with Mill if you're Hellbent, or a discard-then-draw if you're not (kinda like a red loot)
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    I'm fine if they are confused.


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    Re: Foreign Cards at Competitive REL

    Quote Originally Posted by Richard Cheese View Post
    Now that you can't use electronic devices during a match at competitive REL anymore, is there a way to provide yourself or opponent with translations for obscure foreign cards other than judge calls? I found this in the tournament rules:



    Does that mean you can use your phone as long as you're just checking oracle wording in view of both players? If paper form is acceptable, can you just print proxies as long as you keep them separate from your deck?
    I'm not 100% familiar with current policy, but I'd expect electronic Oracle text to still be mostly verboten. Proxies or just printed pages would be fine, and that's what some people would do back before "electronic devices" were really a thing. Just make sure the text is accurate and there's nothing else there besides Oracle information. If doing "proxies" they should be very obviously not real cards.
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    Re: Foreign Cards at Competitive REL

    Has anyone researched how much oracle text there actually is?

    I wonder what the cost of printing a full oracle textbook would be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by square_two View Post
    I wonder what the cost of printing a full oracle textbook would be.
    Depending on how you format the cards and/or their text, you'd be looking at 1600-3000ish pages. Plus a mandatory reprint with the release of every expansion set and many of the supplementary sets.

    For reference, Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire is something around 700 pages.

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    Re: Foreign Cards at Competitive REL

    Quote Originally Posted by iamajellydonut View Post
    Depending on how you format the cards and/or their text, you'd be looking at 1600-3000ish pages. Plus a mandatory reprint with the release of every expansion set and many of the supplementary sets.

    For reference, Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire is something around 700 pages.
    War and Peace has 1156 to 1455 pages.

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