Shadows over Innistrad

[TsumiBand]

Madness was pretty sweet the first time around, but most instances of it in Time Spiral were shite. Given the relative boost in creatures since Odyssey - Wild Mongrel was once the two-drop to end all two-drops - I wonder what will constitute playable Madness cards.

In particular, I wonder if they'll push the outlets or if they'll be shitty and make sure that there's a mana cost tied to their activation. There's a reason the next best enabler besides Mongrel was Aquamoeba :/

[Dice_Box]

I don't know, but with discard being the main way that you control games in Modern, they could use the space quite well. It would be cool if they printed a card that had to be picked if you used Targeted discard on someone with a cool madness effect. Kind of like hand protection.

[btm10]

Madness was pretty sweet the first time around, but most instances of it in Time Spiral were shite. Given the relative boost in creatures since Odyssey - Wild Mongrel was once the two-drop to end all two-drops - I wonder what will constitute playable Madness cards.

In particular, I wonder if they'll push the outlets or if they'll be shitty and make sure that there's a mana cost tied to their activation. There's a reason the next best enabler besides Mongrel was Aquamoeba :/

In UG, yes, but Tog had Tog as well as (at least when I was building it) Compulsion. Even with Compulsion costing mana it wasn't bad at all with Obsessive Search or Circular Logic.

[Barook]

Madness was pretty sweet the first time around, but most instances of it in Time Spiral were shite. Given the relative boost in creatures since Odyssey - Wild Mongrel was once the two-drop to end all two-drops - I wonder what will constitute playable Madness cards.

In particular, I wonder if they'll push the outlets or if they'll be shitty and make sure that there's a mana cost tied to their activation. There's a reason the next best enabler besides Mongrel was Aquamoeba :/

My money is on a few reprints (as we've already seen with Fiery Temper) on worse, overcosted version of old, popular Madness cards.

Discard with manacosts attached are almost a given with their current design philosophy.

[TsumiBand]

In UG, yes, but Tog had Tog as well as (at least when I was building it) Compulsion. Even with Compulsion costing mana it wasn't bad at all with Obsessive Search or Circular Logic.

Well, Tog :/ lol I mean you're not incorrect but Tog wasn't really a Madness deck, it's like saying decks with Dig Through Time are Delve decks, right -- it's incidental.

Aaaanyway, we understand what I'm saying - if not, I'm more or less interested in seeing what a competitive Standard Madness deck ends up looking like. If they actually push Madness instead of having it be a throwaway thing.

[Cire]

Mindbreaker Demon 2BB
Creature - Demon
Flying, trample
When ~ enters the battlefield, put the top four cards of your library into your graveyard.
Delirium—At the beginning of your upkeep, you lose 4 life unless there are four or more card types among cards in your graveyard.
4/5

Would have been a good addition to Demon Stompy, but lately I would rather play Eldrazi Stompy.

Edit -

Also

Warping Wail and Invasive Surgery make for one wicked FU to any sorcery speed combo deck.

[iamajellydonut]

When do they reveal the contents of the accompanying dual deck?

[Gheizen64]

The second set of SoI is Eldritch Moon. More Eldrazi comign boys!

[square_two]

The second set of SoI is Eldritch Moon. More Eldrazi comign boys!

Eldritch Moon - 2C enchantment that turns all nonbasics into Wastes?

[joven]

Eldritch Moon is announced to have 205 cards. Uff, small sets are getting bigger and bigger! :/

[iamajellydonut]

The second set of SoI is Eldritch Moon. More Eldrazi comign boys!

Next block confirmed to be named "We've Clearly Learned Nothing".

[Cire]

Next block confirmed to be named "We've Clearly Learned Nothing".

I don't know - I like Eldrazi, and they sell well. The biggest issue with the last block IMO was the awful formatting of having lands that produce 1 in set one and then errata them into C in set 2.

[iamajellydonut]

and they sell well.

They sell well because they consistently break the format in a "play or hate" manner. You literally have to buy the product because everything else gets immediately usurped.

[Cire]

They sell well because they consistently break the format in a "play or hate" manner. You literally have to buy the product because everything else gets immediately usurped.

Eh, I play draft or legacy - so this is less "break it the format" than - we have a fun new stompy deck that may be competitive in the long term.

[iamajellydonut]

Eh, I play draft or legacy - so this is less "break it the format" than - we have a fun new stompy deck that may be competitive in the long term.

"I only pay attention to 35% of the game, so this design is fine on an overall scale."

Also, I'm pretty sure some shit happened with Eldrazi the last time around that resulted in a lot of anguishing cries for a ban of Show and Tell. They will always try to push Eldrazi because they have to. That's the design philosophy of Eldrazi. They're bigger and badder than anything in the universe, and it only serves to accelerate power creep.

[thefringthing]

You guys know that "eldritch" is just a word, right? Like, that it doesn't necessarily have anything to do with Eldrazi?

[iamajellydonut]

You guys know that "eldritch" is just a word, right? Like, that it doesn't necessarily have anything to do with Eldrazi?

Dat "Spooky Moon". I'm sure there is potential for it to be something else, but right now I'm bitter about Eldrazi, so it's a fine excuse to vent.

[Berserking Now]

You guys know that "eldritch" is just a word, right? Like, that it doesn't necessarily have anything to do with Eldrazi?

I am tired of eldrazi so I hope you are right.

[Barook]

As for Eldrazi, Hasbro earnings report today said that BFZ was the best selling set of all time. Looks like quality doesn't matter, considering how shitty the set was - somebody will gobble it up anyway.

Given how OGW turned out, I expect another two high Eternal impact sets since Ken Nagle is not only working on SoI, but also EMN (why not EMO? ). Delirium might be the boogeyman this time when cards are pushed and designed only around Standard.

[CorwinB]

As for Eldrazi, Hasbro earnings report today said that BFZ was the best selling set of all time. Looks like quality doesn't matter, considering how shitty the set was - somebody will gobble it up anyway.

Chalk another win for the Willy Wonka school of marketing !