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    Re: Confirmed: Eternal Masters - June 10, 2016

    I mean it's obvious by now but it bears repeating once in a while - the set's being built to be played, it isn't like a FtV or whatever where it's like 15 cards that people allegedly require for Eternal. If rarities and card inclusion looks fishy, it's because they probably decided that putting some cards at their original rarity fucked things up.

    I mean it could also have a lot to do with keeping print runs nominal so that the originals don't tank even though they aren't on the RL but that would just make it seem like collectors' interests were a priority. Or something.
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    Re: Confirmed: Eternal Masters - June 10, 2016

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    Is there a rules reason why Animate Dead can't just be an Enchantment worded to return target creature in a graveyard to the battlefield then become an aura attached to it?
    Yes. If the creature in question has any protection that works against Animate Dead, being a generic enchantment would return the creature to the battlefield (protections don't work in the graveyard), then fail to attach itself to it (protection activated) and go to the graveyard. But since the creature has never been enchanted by Animate Dead, it doesn't die. With the current wording the creature is being enchanted since the beginning, so it dies together with Animate Dead.

    There was a time when Animate Dead was worded like you suggested, and the most common Reanimator fatty was Akroma, Angel of Wrath. Animate Dead on her was a one-sided Exhume.

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    Re: Confirmed: Eternal Masters - June 10, 2016

    Giant tortoise , such a blast !!!

    I've played the hell of mine back in high school
    For only 2 mana it blocks creatures costing up to 4 mana and it can go agro !

    The set is going to be a blast to draft, if only for nostalgia reasons.

    But digital art sucks , I love me some Foglio tortoise over PS1 3d shitty shell.
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    New art is trash. Kinda sad that this has been an ongoing trend as of lately.

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    Re: Confirmed: Eternal Masters - June 10, 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by H View Post
    Making it up, like all the greats before him.

    Uncommons were never on the list. Never. Ever.
    IIRC, Karakas was on the U1 sheet, which was what the Reserve List looked at initially. MY apologies for being a moron.

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    Re: Confirmed: Eternal Masters - June 10, 2016

    Baleful strix is in as a rare.

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    Re: Confirmed: Eternal Masters - June 10, 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by TsumiBand View Post
    I mean it's obvious by now but it bears repeating once in a while - the set's being built to be played, it isn't like a FtV or whatever where it's like 15 cards that people allegedly require for Eternal. If rarities and card inclusion looks fishy, it's because they probably decided that putting some cards at their original rarity fucked things up.

    I mean it could also have a lot to do with keeping print runs nominal so that the originals don't tank even though they aren't on the RL but that would just make it seem like collectors' interests were a priority. Or something.
    The issue I have with that is the fact that they have made the print run extremely limited and aren't even having a major event be Sealed EMA. My local store will be holding two drafts of this set. That's it. Their other boxes are being sold off. Which I don't blame the store for, but it feels like a lose lose situation when you fuck with making cards cheaper by bumping up their rarity while claiming that it's bad for a limited environment which nobody will get to play.
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    Re: Confirmed: Eternal Masters - June 10, 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by Gheizen64 View Post
    Baleful strix is in as a rare.
    This is finally the first we're finding its true rarity. Implied rarity from a boxed set is about as useful as a Mythic "From the Vault: 20" Fyndhorn Elf.
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    Re: Confirmed: Eternal Masters - June 10, 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by Megadeus View Post
    The issue I have with that is the fact that they have made the print run extremely limited and aren't even having a major event be Sealed EMA. My local store will be holding two drafts of this set. That's it. Their other boxes are being sold off. Which I don't blame the store for, but it feels like a lose lose situation when you fuck with making cards cheaper by bumping up their rarity while claiming that it's bad for a limited environment which nobody will get to play.
    There's 3 weeks of MTGO Limited.

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    Re: Confirmed: Eternal Masters - June 10, 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by Gheizen64 View Post
    Baleful strix is in as a rare.
    Thank god, this + deluge means I can finish pimping out Shardless (except for duals of course and the null rod in the board).

    I'm thankful they didn't change the art either, the original robot owl is so good.
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    Re: Confirmed: Eternal Masters - June 10, 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by H View Post
    Making it up, like all the greats before him.

    Uncommons were never on the list. Never. Ever.
    Pretty sure commons and uncommons from Alpha/Beta were on it originally (if they hadn't already been reprinted). At least according to MTGS:

    The first list of Reserved Cards included:

    All cards from Alpha / Beta that had not appeared in Fourth Edition or Ice Age.
    All uncommon and rare cards from Arabian Nights and Antiquities that had not been reprinted in white border at that time (i.e., that did not appear in Revised, Fourth Edition or Chronicles).
    All rare cards from Legends and The Dark that had not yet been reprinted in white border.
    Actually, it appears the uncommons from Arabian Nights and Antiquities still are, which is why we'll never see a reprint of Merchant Ship or Sandals of Abdallah, no matter how hard the eternal community cries for them.
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    Re: Confirmed: Eternal Masters - June 10, 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by Barook View Post
    There's 3 weeks of MTGO Limited.
    Let's be honest though, paper needs reprints way more than online (online, artificial scarcity at that lmao). The limited run plus high ev compared to comparable sets like mm1 and 2 means this will only affect the price of fringe cards and commons and uncommons that don't get upgraded, and maybe vintage cards that aren't played in edh too. Combine that with the increase of rl card prices in response to the set and I see the format only getting more expensive, just like modern has after its 'reprint sets'. Most product will be priced to reflect it's expected value too which will be higher than modern masters, which were already being sold for 10 to 15 CAD. If modern is any kind of reference, while the set seems cool, and pimpers can get new foil/ foreign cards, the sets effect on legacy as a whole will be much ado about nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gheizen64 View Post
    Baleful strix is in as a rare.
    Love it so much as a Shardless player! Toxic Deluge, Strix and Library avaliable as jap foil now! Now Hymn and I am happy

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    Re: Confirmed: Eternal Masters - June 10, 2016

    I hear they got twisters miles wide in the Midwest.

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    Re: Confirmed: Eternal Masters - June 10, 2016

    How does Jace jumping rope have anything to do with Counterspell?

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    Re: Confirmed: Eternal Masters - June 10, 2016

    You fool, he is not jumping, he is taking the first tentative steps on the road to learning how to fly. What does take have to do with countering your spell? He is Jace mate, your a fucking idiot if you ever question his mighty power.

    I really hope he gets killed soon...
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    Re: Confirmed: Eternal Masters - June 10, 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by Dice_Box View Post
    You fool, he is not jumping, he is taking the first tentative steps on the road to learning how to fly. What does take have to do with countering your spell? He is Jace mate, your a fucking idiot if you ever question his mighty power.

    I really hope he gets killed soon...
    I wouldn't gamble on it, not unless WotC decides to make a sneak attack on one if their highest sellers..
    Hell, they would likely even, if he's killed, animate the dead just for the sake of him not being buried.

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    Re: Confirmed: Eternal Masters - June 10, 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by Quasim0ff View Post
    I wouldn't gamble on it, not unless WotC decides to make a sneak attack on one if their highest sellers..
    Hell, they would likely even, if he's killed, animate the dead just for the sake of him not being buried.
    I have yet to meet anyone that doesnt despise Jace as a character. Just goes to show how out of touch I am with the current demographic of the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phonics View Post
    I have yet to meet anyone that doesnt despise Jace as a character. Just goes to show how out of touch I am with the current demographic of the game.
    He';s a much more well-rounded character now that we've seen him fail (a lot). His core problem is that he suffers from John Cena syndrome, where overexposure to him has left a sour taste in most people's mouths.

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