Will be trying out Cascading Cataracts and replacing some of the City of Traitors and Urborg since it might have a chance against Wasteland decks.
The best answer to Elves is Cursed Totem. It is as painful for them as Chalice on the first turn. Or you can use tools which MUD used: Masticore or Stell Helkite
Good idea. Between early Chalice, trinisphere, all is dust and cursed totem from the board, elves should be an easy win
Cutting trini seems like a bad idea with combo expected to make a resurgence.
Also is Oblivion Sower as potent still without Miracles or is an alternative (Reality Smasher, Wurmcoil Engine, Steel Hellkite to deal with aggro's increased presence or Conduit of Ruin for acceleration and tutoring of Ulamog) worth a look. Miracles was the main deck that ran lots of nonfetchlands and stacked the top of its deck, if it's replaced with combo decks that play few lands, sower becomes much weaker.
Last edited by Captain Hammer; 04-26-2017 at 02:41 PM.
The deck is still good w/o Trinispheres. But, post-ban SDT the resurgence of combo decks is a concern. I already adjusted my deck and added +3 Trinispheres
Oblivion Sowers are still good, if you're paired to Lands and/or Maverick, you get to snatch their Wastelands. Better yet, some luck snatching the Dark Depths + Thespian Stage
Granted that multiple trinispheres are redundant 3 in main seems the right number.
I'm more worried about fast combo and burn. I feel like they are on an upswing and Chalice and Trini will be key to having a shot against them. A trini plus a turn 4 ulamog that blows up two mountains should be an autowin vs burn.
After some testing with Caprinos list against burn and ANT, I'm no longer as worried about those matchups. I think this new meta will be pretty good for this deck overall.
What list exactly do you mean?
Sorry for the slow reply, had been sick the past week.
Below is the list I was referencing. Caprino originally developed it and I switched to it soon after.
4 cloudpost
4 glimmerpost
4 vesuva
4 thespian stage
4 eye of ugin
4 eldrazi temple
4 ancient tomb
2 urborg
4 seer
4 oblivion sower
3 ulamog
1 emrakul 15/15
2 kozilek butcher
4 all is dust
4 grim monolit
4 chalice of the void
4 Trinisphere
Side
4 leyline of the void
4 spatial contortion
4 pithing needle
3 warping wail
Is the BigEldrazi thread dead? Is this the main forum for this deck? I tried the less land but more thran version last night. Sower after someone spent 5 life limdul vaulting was funny. Almost every game I hit multiple fetch lands. Also had my dudes path to exiled a few times...switching a thespians for a waste is probably good.
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A waste isn't a bad idea if Path to Exile is a common card in your area, I mostly see StP still.
This thread predates the Big Eldrazi thread but both threads are popular. It's saddening that the deck name Tentacle Smash never caught on. It describes what this deck does perfectly.
The issue with Sower grabbing fetchlands is why I am planning to switch back to Conduit of Ruin or Endbringer. Sower was amazing vs Miracles but doesn't pack the same punch in the current topless meta.
I ssw path a couple times as a sideboard card. Lands has picked up steam in our area so I hope to get matched with them or aggro loam with the sowers but instead I get dnt and exile stp and equipment. Cant complain tho. I often got a single land but meh, variance. I like endbringer a lot bc of show and tell decks being popular here. It also screws with limvul vault setups.
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Below is my most current list
4 cloudpost
4 glimmerpost
2 vesuva
1 thespian stage
4 eye of ugin
4 eldrazi temple
4 ancient tomb
3 city of traitors
1 urborg
4 seer
4 ulamog
1 emrakul aeons torn
1 kozilek butcher
1 kozilek new
4 all is dust
4 grim monolith
4 Thran Dynamo
4 chalice of the void
3 Trinisphere
3 voltiac key
Side
4 leyline of the void
3 wurmcoil engine
3 spatial contortion
3 pithing needle
2 warping wail
It's a tweaked version of the list that won Milan and I am very pleased with it.
I love the concept. Have you considered Conduit of Ruin instead of Channeler? It costs one more mana but is beefier and also tutors up a nice threat. That's the best part, that you can get away with running fewer giant creatures (like the list in the op) if you play Conduit.
Yeah Smasher is awesome. I think this list makes more sense in the faster postMiracles environment.
Glad you are playing it. How is it going?
If you're interested, this is the current build I'm running and I love it.
4 Cloudpost
4 Glimmerpost
4 Eye of Ugin
4 Eldrazi Temple
4 Ancient Tomb
3 City of Traitors
2 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
2 Vesuva
1 Thespian's Stage
4 Thought-Knot Seer
4 Reality Smasher
4 Oblivion Sower
3 Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger
1 Kozilek, Butcher of Truth
1 Kozilek, the Great Distortion
4 All is Dust
4 Grim Monolith
4 Chalice of the Void
3 Trinisphere
Sideboard
4 Leyline of the Void
4 Pithing Needle
3 Spatial Contortion
2 Warping Wail
2 Wurmcoil Engine
I updated the OP with my updated build.
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