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    Re: [DTB] Eldrazi Stompy

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    An Eldrazi deck on camera right now playing hangerback walker. That's, interesting....

    edit: And smokestack/cubicle of worlds... cool brew.
    I would kill for that list. The player made day two.

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    Made day2 @ GP Prague with Barok's list with a small change (removed a lotus for a World Breaker main) and 1 trinisphere SB (didnt have the 3rd thorn on me :/)

    I did 6-3 after being 6-1...

    Foodchain : 0-2
    Pox : 2-0
    Esper Deathblade : 2-0
    Omnisneakshow : 2-0
    Colorless Eldrazi : 2-0
    Storm ANT (Carsten Kotter!!) : 2-0
    Aggro Loam : 2-1
    Aggro Loam : 1-2
    Mono-R Painter : 0-2


    Day 2 :

    I'm @ 7-3 right now.

    Belcher : 2-1

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    Everyone take a bow!! Great work guys.


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    Re: [DTB] Eldrazi Stompy

    I'm happy people are enjoying my build and having success with it.

    On a different note: A WU build just lost on camera and is now 10-1-1.

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    At GP Columbus. Made day 2 at x-3 with my list very close to @Barook list

    Bye
    2-0 jund
    2-0 maverick
    1-2 shard less
    2-1 reanimator
    1-2 elves
    2-1 mirror
    2-0 infect
    0-2 lands

    I punted against elves pretty hard. I punted vs elves at a legacy iq last week. Goal is not to punt to them today.

    Will do a full report later, one scenario I must mention now though:
    Game 2 vs reanimator I keep a loose hand of 6 lands, 1 being Karakas, scry saw macabre so screw it play eye and pass. He reanimated stormtide leviathan turn 1. Get a displacer out and keep him tapped down for a good while. Get urborg, cast macabre, win with macabre beats

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    Dam, the stax build I think has been knocked out of Top 8 contention. More's the pity, it rocks.
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    Re: [DTB] Eldrazi Stompy

    Quote Originally Posted by Dice_Box View Post
    Dam, the stax build I think has been knocked out of Top 8 contention. More's the pity, it rocks.
    He has a highly theoretical chance (at least without seeing his tiebreakers) where he could make it if all the top 6 tables play, and either table 7 or table 8 ends up with a draw. But yeah, chances are he'll fall a game short. That deck is definitely something to consider though; perhaps there's room for further tinkering but it's certainly a great midrange brew.

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    http://magic.wizards.com/en/events/c...ckl-2016-06-12

    He finished 54th, 33 points and 0.6582 breakers.
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    Re: [DTB] Eldrazi Stompy

    I strongly doubt the possible gain from "EldraziStax" take since i barely see the upside of mixing those 2 strategys. You somewhat loose the hyper-aggressive Eldrazi Style that just "happens" to throw some disruption along and neither can you pull the full lockdown mode Stax tries to go for.
    Maybe i have to test the list, but from reading it, seeing the streamed games as well as the deck tech, i dont think its a reliable strategy and in no way is it belonging into "Eldrazi Stompy" (aka the Tier1 breed).
    Anyhow, aside from that rather critical evaluation, i think its a pretty deck and is surely to offer to a lot of fun when you pilot it (i just would not pick it up over EldraziStompy or categorize it in this archetype)
    Dont get this wrong - i admire the creativity and love to see someone shipping aside the main stream - i just dont think its even close to being a real contester power-wise.

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    im not a hater. but i think that build looks horrendous
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    Re: [DTB] Eldrazi Stompy

    Are any Eldrazi decks still in contention for Top 8 in Columbus?

    Edit: Columbus is also Eldrazi-free in the Top 8

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    Barely any Eldrazis in top 32 as well. And when there was, it was colorless... I don't get it. Displacers didn't make it, even though it is very strong.

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    About the staxx drazi player - I think its not a good deck, very meta dependant.

    I Went top 32 ( 32'ed to be exact. ) in GP prague with a colorless build.

    My matchups where:

    Day1

    R1 - 0-2 Grixis
    R2 - 2-0 Turbo depths
    R3 - 2-0 Dark maverick
    R4 - 2-1 Grixis
    R5 - 2-0 Burn
    R6 - 1-2 Aggro Loam
    R7 - 2-0 Alluren
    R8 - 0-2 Tezzerator / helm combo control thing something
    R9 - 2-0 Dredge

    Day2

    R10 - 2-1 Omnitell
    R11 - 2-0 Omnitell
    R12 - 2-0 Storm
    R13 - 2-0 Grixis
    R14 - 2-0 Bug delver
    R15 - 2-0 Miracles

    It was the second time I played eldrazi in a tournament, and the first time I played a big GP.
    So I was rather nervous and made a lot of mistakes.
    The first match against grixis was really sad and played really bad because I was nervous. Should be able to win this easily.
    The Aggro loam match I Should have drawn We where in time he was at 7 I was at 7, I had an active endbringer. It was his second to last turn, and he passed to my last turn.
    I'm happy cause I think I won cause I can tutor up a reality smasher hit him, kill him, or something. details are a bit foggy of board state. Anyway, I take two damage from tomb. And yes, I totally forgot about punishing fire. Stupid.
    Cause with the life gains he would have needed to give me I would have just been out of burn rate.
    The loss against tezzerator was really nothing to be done against. That deck just crushes drazi.

    All in all, I think the colorless build is the best one and a more experienced player in my position would have made top 16 easily and possibly top 8.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrDieth View Post
    About the staxx drazi player - I think its not a good deck, very meta dependant.

    I Went top 32 ( 32'ed to be exact. ) in GP prague with a colorless build.

    My matchups where:

    Day1

    R1 - 0-2 Grixis
    R2 - 2-0 Turbo depths
    R3 - 2-0 Dark maverick
    R4 - 2-1 Grixis
    R5 - 2-0 Burn
    R6 - 1-2 Aggro Loam
    R7 - 2-0 Alluren
    R8 - 0-2 Tezzerator / helm combo control thing something
    R9 - 2-0 Dredge

    Day2

    R10 - 2-1 Omnitell
    R11 - 2-0 Omnitell
    R12 - 2-0 Storm
    R13 - 2-0 Grixis
    R14 - 2-0 Bug delver
    R15 - 2-0 Miracles

    It was the second time I played eldrazi in a tournament, and the first time I played a big GP.
    So I was rather nervous and made a lot of mistakes.
    The first match against grixis was really sad and played really bad because I was nervous. Should be able to win this easily.
    The Aggro loam match I Should have drawn We where in time he was at 7 I was at 7, I had an active endbringer. It was his second to last turn, and he passed to my last turn.
    I'm happy cause I think I won cause I can tutor up a reality smasher hit him, kill him, or something. details are a bit foggy of board state. Anyway, I take two damage from tomb. And yes, I totally forgot about punishing fire. Stupid.
    Cause with the life gains he would have needed to give me I would have just been out of burn rate.
    The loss against tezzerator was really nothing to be done against. That deck just crushes drazi.

    All in all, I think the colorless build is the best one and a more experienced player in my position would have made top 16 easily and possibly top 8.
    gratz! impressive results, especially against omnitell with 0 thorns main. although i think the manabase looks bad in my opinion, i do like the idea of the warping wails in the sideboard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noloam_ View Post
    gratz! impressive results, especially against omnitell with 0 thorns main. although i think the manabase looks bad in my opinion, i do like the idea of the warping wails in the sideboard.
    I'm the other guy ^^.

    http://magic.wizards.com/en/events/c...sts-2016-06-12

    The one at the bottom.

    So I had revokers, thorn's, wails and endbringer maindeck to combat them.
    Combined with a full playset of wastelands makes this matchup much easier then I expected it to be. Cause I thought it was one of drazi's worser matchups.

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    Re: [DTB] Eldrazi Stompy

    How good do you all think are Chalice of the Void and Thorn of Amethyst versus Shardless BuG?

    + Chalice@1 hits: Brainstorm, Deathrite
    + Chalice@0 hits: Ancestral Visions (maybe also your own Lotus Petal)
    - But they can just Decay the chalice.

    + Thorn virtually adds (1) to Shardless Agent, since your opponent will have to leave a mana open in case he flips a noncreature spell.
    + Thorn adds (1) to play Visions from suspension
    - But it also hinders your own Warping Wail (that are crucial versus Baleful Strix, Deathrite Shaman and at countering all those Sorcery's they play)
    - It also hinders your All is Dust (which is why i am down to 1 in the SB currently)

    What are your thoughts here?
    I currently try to just cut the 4 Chalice 4 Displacer and replace them with 4 Needle 2 Spatial 1 Dust 1 Thorn. The idea here beeing to Needle Wasteland/Liliana/Deathrite (in that order), to have extra removal via Spatial for Strix (such a bummer) / Deahtrite and Agents and 1 All is dust to just have a way to reset the board. I would love to also include the 2 Sower+1 Ulamog package, but i dont think Shardless grants you enough time to actually pull that stunt in many games (allthough more often than not boards are stalled). I just would not know what else to cut there


    For reference, here is my current list:
    4 Endless One
    4 Eldrazi Mimic
    4 Eldrazi Displacer
    4 Thought-Knot Seer
    4 Reality Smasher
    3 Eldrazi Obligator

    4 Lotus Petal
    4 Chalice of the Void
    3 Warping Wail
    2 Thorn of Amethyst

    3 Eye of Ugin
    3 City of Traitors
    4 Ancient Tomb
    4 Eldrazi Temple
    4 Cavern of Souls
    4 Corrupted Crossroads
    1 Battlefield Forge
    1 Sea Gate Wreckage

    Sideboard
    3 Faerie Macabre
    4 Pithing Needle
    2 Spatial Contortion
    1 All is Dust
    1 Thorn of Amethyst
    1 Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger
    1 Ratchet Bomb
    2 Oblivion Sower

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrDieth View Post
    I'm the other guy ^^.

    http://magic.wizards.com/en/events/c...sts-2016-06-12

    The one at the bottom.

    So I had revokers, thorn's, wails and endbringer maindeck to combat them.
    Combined with a full playset of wastelands makes this matchup much easier then I expected it to be. Cause I thought it was one of drazi's worser matchups.

    yes that list makes a lot more sense to me :). i also pondered about the contortion instead of dismember. it seems great vs delver. dont you think it is annoying that you cant kill goyf most of the times ? im quite surprised you 2'-0'ed dredge with only 2 hateslots side.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noloam_ View Post
    yes that list makes a lot more sense to me :). i also pondered about the contortion instead of dismember. it seems great vs delver. dont you think it is annoying that you cant kill goyf most of the times ? im quite surprised you 2'-0'ed dredge with only 2 hateslots side.
    4 hhateslots, 2 faerie and 2 relic.

    I won the roll.
    Game 1 - I went t1 chalice in the blind on 1. Wich he just scooped against basicly. He had a mull to 6, so he couldnt naturally discard dredgers wich made him really slow.
    Game 2 - He goes t1 loothing + led, pop led. some ichorids and narco's. I play a thorn and just race him. Thorn makes it so that he can't go crazy with dread return, therapy's etc.
    Dredge isnt really that fast of a deck and with just a bit of desruption you can easily race them.
    I also side ratchet bomb in against them so the zombie's cant get out of control.

    I really loved the Spatial contortion.
    It can't kill goyfs. But when I used it, it was always aimed at a delver's head, wich are a bit more problematic. Against deck who don't have a lot of creatures to remove
    you can use it as a pump spell on thought knot, smasher, endless one etc.. So I was never anoyed to have it. And not costing life was such a great bonus cause a lot of my games ended with me being at three or less life.
    I would like to have one extra, but I just can't find the room. Suggestions?

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    Re: [DTB] Eldrazi Stompy

    I won't be writing up a tournament reports as I didn't take many notes and I am not sure I could accurately remember all of the details from the games I played over both days. If you have any questions about the list or the matches, let me know. I will do my best to remember the details.

    The list I ran and my match-ups are below. Again, big thanks to @Barook:

    2 Karakas
    4 Eldrazi Mimic
    3 Mishra's Factory
    4 Chalice of the Void
    3 Lotus Petal
    4 Endless One
    4 Matter Reshaper
    3 Eye of Ugin
    4 Reality Smasher
    2 Umezawa's Jitte
    2 Dismember
    4 Ancient Tomb
    2 Brushland
    4 Eldrazi Temple
    2 Warping Wail
    3 City of Traitors
    3 Cavern of Souls
    3 Eldrazi Displacer
    4 Thought-Knot Seer

    1 Warping Wail
    4 Leyline of the Void
    3 All Is Dust
    2 World Breaker
    1 Eldrazi Displacer
    1 Dismember
    1 Karakas
    2 Thorn of Amethyst


    R1 - 2-1 Nic Fit (Jund with B. Wish and Scapeshift)
    R2 - 2-0 Miracles
    R3 - 0-2 Shardless*
    R4 - 0-2 Painter (T1 Moon both games)
    R5 - 2-1 Goblins (Won through a Bloom Moon G2)
    R6 - 2-1 Lands (Karakas MVP)**
    R7 - 2-0 ANT
    R8 - 2-1 Dredge
    R9 - 0-2 Shardless

    R10 - 1-2 Colorless Eldrazi (he drew the big half of his deck, I drew reshapers and mimics)
    R11 - 2-1 4c Loam (Karakas MVP again)
    R12 - 1-2 Junk Nic Fit (Sigarda is a real thing when you plan on casting All Is Dust)

    I dropped at X-5 as I didn't want to put myself in a bad mood, I don't care about the pro point, the rest of my car didn't make D2, and I wanted to get back home in time for the Penguins game.

    * The first Shardless match-up I had him at 1 life and his hand was empty in G1 and couldn't find a threat to finish him off. G2 I had a full board (TKS, TKS, 6/6 Endless one). Again, he was empy handed and his only out was Strix into Goyf (REAL big at this point. I think 6/7 or 7/8 because of All Is Dust) and then draw removal the following turn. That's exactly what he did. Yuck.

    ** I had lost 2 matches in a row at this point and after dropping G1 I had kind of checked out and was on tilt. I let a Gamble and an Exploration through a Chalice on 1 in G2. Luckily, he mulled to a pretty weak 5 and I won anyway.

    I did not practice the Shardless match-up nearly as much as I should have. Huge mistake on my part.

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    I started 6-0 at GP Col with this list. Built it the night before and made changes I didn't like and moved some numbers. Ended up losing to Burn, then D&Tx2, decided to skip day two and just play a pile of feces at the SSS. I'll do a report assuming I ever care to play this deck again.



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