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    Someone linked me to this and I decided it was important to bring up my side of the story. Exhausted from the night before I sat down and awaited an opponent. You stroll up and then wont even speak. I say "hello" you don't respond. I ask for Even/Odd and you started complaining and crying that you'd rather do high roll. "It's what I'm used to" you said after hemming and hawing about me asking you a question. I say sure that's fine and instead of rolling you slam your dice down in the middle of the table and I ask you to roll and you just stare at me while I'm shuffling. I ask you two more times to silence before I eventually pick up your dice and roll. You lose the dice roll and you don't even present your deck like a reasonable person. You shuffle and place your deck next to you. In order for me to cut your deck I have to reach across the table.

    It's so awkward the guy sitting next to me gives you a look. But you're so clueless. You're probably one of those people that recognizes my name and got scared. You forgot I'm a real person too. I didn't even throw a fit when I handed you my deck to cut and you threw it off the table while shuffling. I called a judge and said it was an accident. I didn't even call you out for taking advantage of the fact that you dropped it and started staring at the cards that flipped face up.

    Not only were you actually the one that was a prick, you were also completely socially inept. I get it, you spent a bunch of money to buy foil versions of Magic cards and you participate on the Eldrazi forum where you think you're some sort of hot shot so that gives you some sort of pass to be toxic at events. I've certainly been a dick in the past but I didn't do anything this one around. I tried to talk to you but you were a giant baby all match. I gave you no looks and barely talked to you because when I tried to say anything to you, you started looking elsewhere and ignored me. You clearly have a lot of words to say here so I doubt it's the case you had nothing to say during our match. I had a really good event except for our match where you made things very awkward.

    Don't lie to the people here on a forum about our match because you weren't mature enough to handle things in real life.

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    Day 2

    Round 10 vs. 4c Leovold pilot - I won 2-0 in a resounding fashion. This was against Rudy Brikza who is some kind of a minor semi-pro player, I guess. He had a huge attitude like he was a hot-shot, tried to belittle me the whole time, called judge loudly on a mistake I made, and in general was just a complete prick. Of course it felt great to just destroy him completely with a deck he probably thought was a complete jank pile. In one of the games he trots out a board full of Jace, 2 Deathrites, Leovold, and a Strix, and taps out to do so. He has this look on his face like "Yeah, what are you gonna do now, huh?" Next turn I have enough mana to cast Trinisphere and then cast Ugin and the look on his face was priceless. In G2 he Hymns me a few times, counters a bunch of stuff, and I have lots of mana but my stuff keeps getting countered or discarded, but I topdeck Kozilek on an empty board and empty hand like a boss and he just storms off without saying another word.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hanni View Post
    I'm not sure. I think of Ugin as a threat also, so counting Eye of Ugin, that puts me at 8 finishers (I'm not including TKS here, although he can legitimately close games out if I'm sweeping the board multiple times with All is Dust). Is 8 not enough? Again, this is an experimental list that will be my starting point, so I don’t know yet.
    I was playing this last night against I had more than 8 finishers and there were games where I had lock pieces in play, and tons of mana but nothing to cast. I'm going to start running Coercive Portals or Staff of Nin main because this deck needs something to make sure it can move from the durdle-lock stage to the overwhelming bomb stage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FourDogsinaHorseSuit View Post
    I was playing this last night against I had more than 8 finishers and there were games where I had lock pieces in play, and tons of mana but nothing to cast. I'm going to start running Coercive Portals or Staff of Nin main because this deck needs something to make sure it can move from the durdle-lock stage to the overwhelming bomb stage.
    In all fairness, my list should be able to play the durdle game a bit longer because of the 4 Warping Wail and 4 All is Dust, but it's also quite possible that you are correct and 8 finishers is not enough. I'll figure that out once I get to play with the deck. This week is non-proxy at my LGS, so it's not going to be until at least next Thursday before I get to play against actual opponent's. I will goldfish in the meantime, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bza View Post
    Someone linked me to this and I decided it was important to bring up my side of the story. Exhausted from the night before I sat down and awaited an opponent. You stroll up and then wont even speak. I say "hello" you don't respond. I ask for Even/Odd and you started complaining and crying that you'd rather do high roll. "It's what I'm used to" you said after hemming and hawing about me asking you a question. I say sure that's fine and instead of rolling you slam your dice down in the middle of the table and I ask you to roll and you just stare at me while I'm shuffling. I ask you two more times to silence before I eventually pick up your dice and roll. You lose the dice roll and you don't even present your deck like a reasonable person. You shuffle and place your deck next to you. In order for me to cut your deck I have to reach across the table.

    It's so awkward the guy sitting next to me gives you a look. But you're so clueless. You're probably one of those people that recognizes my name and got scared. You forgot I'm a real person too. I didn't even throw a fit when I handed you my deck to cut and you threw it off the table while shuffling. I called a judge and said it was an accident. I didn't even call you out for taking advantage of the fact that you dropped it and started staring at the cards that flipped face up.

    Not only were you actually the one that was a prick, you were also completely socially inept. I get it, you spent a bunch of money to buy foil versions of Magic cards and you participate on the Eldrazi forum where you think you're some sort of hot shot so that gives you some sort of pass to be toxic at events. I've certainly been a dick in the past but I didn't do anything this one around. I tried to talk to you but you were a giant baby all match. I gave you no looks and barely talked to you because when I tried to say anything to you, you started looking elsewhere and ignored me. You clearly have a lot of words to say here so I doubt it's the case you had nothing to say during our match. I had a really good event except for our match where you made things very awkward.

    Don't lie to the people here on a forum about our match because you weren't mature enough to handle things in real life.
    On one hand, I don't believe you just go around trashing random people on the internet, but on the other hand, Leovald. I guess the truth is in the middle!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MGB
    Day 2

    Round 10 vs. 4c Leovold pilot - I won 2-0 in a resounding fashion. This was against Rudy Brikza who is some kind of a minor semi-pro player, I guess. He had a huge attitude like he was a hot-shot, tried to belittle me the whole time, called judge loudly on a mistake I made, and in general was just a complete prick. Of course it felt great to just destroy him completely with a deck he probably thought was a complete jank pile. In one of the games he trots out a board full of Jace, 2 Deathrites, Leovold, and a Strix, and taps out to do so. He has this look on his face like "Yeah, what are you gonna do now, huh?" Next turn I have enough mana to cast Trinisphere and then cast Ugin and the look on his face was priceless. In G2 he Hymns me a few times, counters a bunch of stuff, and I have lots of mana but my stuff keeps getting countered or discarded, but I topdeck Kozilek on an empty board and empty hand like a boss and he just storms off without saying another word
    Honestly, this kind of post speaks more volumes about your qualities as a player than it does his. First off, I've played against many known players who weren't the most amicable opponents for whatever reason. The difference being I'm not going on public forums and calling people "pricks" and trying to act like a hot shot because I won. Second, I can promise you that a lot of players would have acted much more poignantly than he did after you dropped his deck and peaked at cards. In either coming on here to brag and trash talk someone for no real reason other than "they came across as abrasive" again speaks more about you than it does him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bza View Post
    You're probably one of those people that recognizes my name and got scared.
    Not taking sides at all but this seems to validate at least part of MGB’s claim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bza View Post
    Someone linked me to this and I decided it was important to bring up my side of the story. Exhausted from the night before I sat down and awaited an opponent. You stroll up and then wont even speak. I say "hello" you don't respond. I ask for Even/Odd and you started complaining and crying that you'd rather do high roll. "It's what I'm used to" you said after hemming and hawing about me asking you a question. I say sure that's fine and instead of rolling you slam your dice down in the middle of the table and I ask you to roll and you just stare at me while I'm shuffling. I ask you two more times to silence before I eventually pick up your dice and roll. You lose the dice roll and you don't even present your deck like a reasonable person. You shuffle and place your deck next to you. In order for me to cut your deck I have to reach across the table.
    I did say hello; maybe you didn't hear me?

    You pressure me to do "Even/Odd" when the custom is simply to do high roll. Naturally I wanted to do the most customary thing in this situation but you insinuated that I was going against the grain to turn down your request to do something out of the ordinary. And then when you finally decided to do high roll, you practically SHOUTED at me to "Well, ROLL THEN!"

    You made a power play to try to intimidate me and I threw it back in your face. There's no reason you couldn't have just said "OK, we'll do high roll", and picked up the dice yourself and rolled first like every other opponent that I asked this question to that weekend. Instead, you wanted to do it your way and then when I resisted, you tried to force me into rolling first to accept your command.

    I placed my deck directly next to your playmat which is what I do EVERY SINGLE MATCH and no other opponent ever has a problem picking it up and shuffling it from that point. Apparently you're the only that had that problem.

    It's so awkward the guy sitting next to me gives you a look. But you're so clueless. You're probably one of those people that recognizes my name and got scared. You forgot I'm a real person too. I didn't even throw a fit when I handed you my deck to cut and you threw it off the table while shuffling. I called a judge and said it was an accident. I didn't even call you out for taking advantage of the fact that you dropped it and started staring at the cards that flipped face up.
    Get over yourself dude! You're not even a full-fledged pro player. You're a guy that regularly does well in Starcitygames events (when people who are legit Pro Players regularly do well in Wizards events like Grand Prixs and Pro Tours ). I play this game 100% for fun and don't expect to make a nickel out of playing it, and rather play online and in the *occasional* *nearby* paper tournament (I almost never travel to any Magic event more than 3 hours away by car - SCG DC and GP:Columbus were the only two I've ever traveled 2+ hours to attend) to have fun with strange Magic brews, rather than trying to top-8 at all costs with the latest Tier 1 deck du jour and then storming off angrily when I lose.

    I'm not a pro player, in fact, I'm extremely far from being a pro player. I don't intend to even aspire to being a "hot shot". I'm just a random guy who plays decks he enjoys playing in Legacy and Modern, and that's it. I'm not part of any Magic scene or clique whatsoever and don't ever intend to be.

    Not only were you actually the one that was a prick, you were also completely socially inept. I get it, you spent a bunch of money to buy foil versions of Magic cards and you participate on the Eldrazi forum where you think you're some sort of hot shot so that gives you some sort of pass to be toxic at events. I've certainly been a dick in the past but I didn't do anything this one around. I tried to talk to you but you were a giant baby all match. I gave you no looks and barely talked to you because when I tried to say anything to you, you started looking elsewhere and ignored me. You clearly have a lot of words to say here so I doubt it's the case you had nothing to say during our match. I had a really good event except for our match where you made things very awkward.
    You're literally the only person that had a problem with me the entire time. Every one of my other opponents was fine with me and we exchanged casual banter. You were clearly taking the day very seriously and got upset with losing. You don't seem to take losses graciously and you probably take this game too seriously rather than just accepting it as a a past-time or hobby like it is for most of us who play Legacy.

    If my demeanor seemed so awkward to you it's because I try to avoid too much talk when I'm focusing on a match at hand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hyp3r1on View Post
    Honestly, this kind of post speaks more volumes about your qualities as a player than it does his. First off, I've played against many known players who weren't the most amicable opponents for whatever reason. The difference being I'm not going on public forums and calling people "pricks" and trying to act like a hot shot because I won. Second, I can promise you that a lot of players would have acted much more poignantly than he did after you dropped his deck and peaked at cards. In either coming on here to brag and trash talk someone for no real reason other than "they came across as abrasive" again speaks more about you than it does him.
    I wouldn't even bring that encounter up but for the fact that I was asked to write a recap of the tournament. I don't intend to randomly "trash talk" people on forums but I'm going to describe events as they occur if I'm writing a tournament recap to explain my decisions and my matches' outcomes.

    I felt like it was part of the tournament because it was my worst experience with an opponent the entire time, and I felt bullied and antagonized during that match.

    I make no claims about my qualities as a player - I know I'm an average player at best and I don't really play tier decks so there's really an upper limit to how well I'll ever do at a major tournament. That's fine; I don't derive my identity from Magic and instead just treat it like an occasional hobby. I rarely even travel to tournaments and only play MTGO a few days out of the week.

    And no, beating someone in the late rounds of a SCG Open doesn't ever make me a hotshot of any kind. I simply want to say that it felt good to beat someone who plays very regularly with tier 1 decks with a tier 3 brew, especially after that person antagonized me and tried to bully me during the match. That is all. It doesn't make me a better player than that person, and it certainly doesn't mean anything outside of that one tournament.
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    I'm going to keep this brief since you feel so strongly about what happened.

    I in no way shape or form bullied or antagonized you. I asked you a question "can we do high roll?" And you freaked out. I'm sorry if it offended you, for me even/odd is quite easy to manage and is the fastest way to resolve who goes first while maintaining the utmost semblance of an even playing field. You took this as an insult. Then after I agreed to high roll you refused to roll the dice. I asked you politely twice to roll and AFTER you intentionally ignored me I asked louder. What this means is that I believed it's possible you didn't hear me. So I asked louder to make sure you could hear me.

    Yet again you ignored me. Then you placed your deck on YOUR playmat next to you. I literally had to reach across the table to pick it up for presenting. And again, let's not forget you literally threw half my deck on the floor while shuffling. And what was the response from me? "It was an accident" Once again, that's me giving you the benefit of the doubt. And you intentionally looked at my deck that you flipped over. S I guess despite having an extremely favorable matchup, you didn't feel like it was enough of an edge.

    You were rude, disrespectful, and apparently you seemed to take that as me bullying you. In all honesty the only person who needs to get over themselves is you. You apparently cared so much you know a lot about me and my Magic accomplishments. You'll always remember our match and meeting but as for me, I won't remember you after this week, just like everyone else you've ever met.

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    You'll always remember our match and meeting but as for me, I won't remember you after this week, just like everyone else you've ever met.
    That's not fair, Rudy. I still remember playing against him on MTGO, even a couple of months later, due to how unpleasant of an experience it was.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bza View Post
    I'm going to keep this brief since you feel so strongly about what happened.

    I in no way shape or form bullied or antagonized you. I asked you a question "can we do high roll?" And you freaked out. I'm sorry if it offended you, for me even/odd is quite easy to manage and is the fastest way to resolve who goes first while maintaining the utmost semblance of an even playing field. You took this as an insult. Then after I agreed to high roll you refused to roll the dice. I asked you politely twice to roll and AFTER you intentionally ignored me I asked louder. What this means is that I believed it's possible you didn't hear me. So I asked louder to make sure you could hear me.
    First, you told me to do even/odd when it's clearly against custom to do so, so you're making an abnormal request. I wanted to do the customary thing and you seemed insulted for me not to just give in to your request. I'm the one who asked to do "high roll". So you're admitting that you commanded me to roll my own dice. Why not just take the dice and roll them yourself? Is that unreasonable? Except that you were giving a command as an intimidation tactic which I resisted. Plain and simple. There's no reason, if you're simply being gracious, that you can take the dice and roll first. I specifically ignored you when you commanded me because I wanted to see if you were simply being a gracious opponent or making a power play. It was the latter.

    You were rude, disrespectful, and apparently you seemed to take that as me bullying you. In all honesty the only person who needs to get over themselves is you. You apparently cared so much you know a lot about me and my Magic accomplishments. You'll always remember our match and meeting but as for me, I won't remember you after this week, just like everyone else you've ever met.
    Magic accomplishments? Do you hear yourself? It's a game that only a small handful of people can use as a real income stream. Unless you're literally earning a living wage or better playing this game, you sound kind of silly saying that. Have you ever top8ed a Pro Tour? Made thousands of dollars at the World Championship? Made Platinum and earned appearance fees to show up at tournaments? Those are real accomplishments that only a few claim to have realized. Are you making a living playing this game? Or do you have to hold down a job like everyone else and use that to fund what is still nothing more than a *hobby* for you? I think we know the answer to that question.

    I, and most people who play this game for as a hobby, are content with treating it as such and don't harp on our "accomplishments" as if any tournament performances actually mean anything in the real world. I could take this game and leave it completely if I wanted to. Can you do that or would it remove the majority of your identity as a person?
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    I'll be honest with you. It sounds to me you were obviously offended when Rudy insisted on rolling Odds/even. It might not be customary for you to do that for you, but odds/even rolling is far preferred at higher level events because it's impossible to manipulate rolls and fix outcomes. Odd/even is something I'll always insist on as well for GPs. That initial encounter basically set the precedence for the rest of the match.

    I've known Rudy for a few years now and even teamed with him on one occasion for an SCG event and I've never seen him remotely act out of line or disrespectful to any stranger or opponent at an event. Like I said, it's very obvious the initial situation set a negative precedence. That doesn't really give you a good reason to bash someone on a public forum.
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    With all due respect, please feel free to continue in PM. This thread is not about un/sporting conduct in one match.

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    "You have no Magic accomplishments"

    "Success on the Open series"

    TFW

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    With all due respect, please feel free to continue in PM. This thread is not about un/sporting conduct in one match.

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    Thanks for the report Pathy. I do hope you guys can sort out your misunderstandings.

    Getting back to topic, have you considered Wurmcoil Engines in the Endbringer slots?

    Someone got 14th place with your list +4 Spyglass
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    Quote Originally Posted by darkgh0st View Post
    Thanks for the report Pathy. I do hope you guys can sort out your misunderstandings.

    Getting back to topic, have you considered Wurmcoil Engines in the Endbringer slots?

    Someone got 11th place with your list +4 Spyglass
    You mean 14th place?

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    You mean 14th place?
    Yup

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    Quote Originally Posted by bza View Post
    someone linked me to this and i decided it was important to bring up my side of the story. Exhausted from the night before i sat down and awaited an opponent. You stroll up and then wont even speak. I say "hello" you don't respond. I ask for even/odd and you started complaining and crying that you'd rather do high roll. "it's what i'm used to" you said after hemming and hawing about me asking you a question. I say sure that's fine and instead of rolling you slam your dice down in the middle of the table and i ask you to roll and you just stare at me while i'm shuffling. I ask you two more times to silence before i eventually pick up your dice and roll. You lose the dice roll and you don't even present your deck like a reasonable person. You shuffle and place your deck next to you. In order for me to cut your deck i have to reach across the table.

    It's so awkward the guy sitting next to me gives you a look. But you're so clueless. You're probably one of those people that recognizes my name and got scared. You forgot i'm a real person too. I didn't even throw a fit when i handed you my deck to cut and you threw it off the table while shuffling. I called a judge and said it was an accident. I didn't even call you out for taking advantage of the fact that you dropped it and started staring at the cards that flipped face up.

    Not only were you actually the one that was a prick, you were also completely socially inept. I get it, you spent a bunch of money to buy foil versions of magic cards and you participate on the eldrazi forum where you think you're some sort of hot shot so that gives you some sort of pass to be toxic at events. I've certainly been a dick in the past but i didn't do anything this one around. I tried to talk to you but you were a giant baby all match. I gave you no looks and barely talked to you because when i tried to say anything to you, you started looking elsewhere and ignored me. You clearly have a lot of words to say here so i doubt it's the case you had nothing to say during our match. I had a really good event except for our match where you made things very awkward.

    Don't lie to the people here on a forum about our match because you weren't mature enough to handle things in real life.
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