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    Top 100 Day 2 meta for both Legacy GPs in US and Europe

    http://magic.wizards.com/en/events/c...own-2016-06-12
    Grixis Delver 16
    Shardless BUG 14
    Miracles 13
    Eldrazi 9
    DnT 7
    Infect 7

    http://magic.wizards.com/en/events/c...gue-2016-06-12
    Eldrazi 15
    Miracles 12
    Shardless BUG 12
    Grixis Delver 7
    BUG Delver 6
    Sneak and Show 6

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    The usual suspects, but Eldrazi seems more popular in Europe; thank to Tom Ross, Infect is still a thing in the US.

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    Re: Top 100 Day 2 meta for both Legacy GPs in US and Europe

    Pretty shocked to see that much Miracles in the top 8, and it doesn't look like an awful bracket for any of them.

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    Re: Top 100 Day 2 meta for both Legacy GPs in US and Europe

    Also interesting that Eldrazi showed up in neither Top 8.

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    I ended up 113 maybe due to bad breakers at the US GP

    All I wanted to see was eldrazi and I didn't play it once!

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    Quote Originally Posted by btm10 View Post
    Pretty shocked to see that much Miracles in the top 8, and it doesn't look like an awful bracket for any of them.
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    12 of the 13 miracles that were in the top 100 ended up top 32 for Columbus. 28/32 decks had 4X Brainstorm
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    Re: Top 100 Day 2 meta for both Legacy GPs in US and Europe

    Quote Originally Posted by Megadeus View Post
    12 of the 13 miracles that were in the top 100 ended up top 32 for Columbus. 28/32 decks had 4X Brainstorm
    Those Delver decks are just like Miracles!

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    Re: Top 100 Day 2 meta for both Legacy GPs in US and Europe

    Fully 50 decks of the top 200 were either Shardless or Eldrazi, and only 1 (a shardless BUG) made it into either top8 - what happened? I mean I get that these styles of deck are a total crapshoot when it comes to getting their best pilots into day twos and top8s (precisely because they don't really pick up extra win % based on player ability), but 25% of the collective field had 6.25% top-8 penetration?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fox View Post
    Fully 50 decks of the top 200 were either Shardless or Eldrazi, and only 1 (a shardless BUG) made it into either top8 - what happened? I mean I get that these styles of deck are a total crapshoot when it comes to getting their best pilots into day twos and top8s (precisely because they don't really pick up extra win % based on player ability), but 25% of the collective field had 6.25% top-8 penetration?
    I disagree pretty strongly that Shardless doesn't convert player skill cleanly into wins. Eldrazi gets a fair number of free wins off of Chalice and explosive starts, but Shardless gets very few since all it does is play interactive cards and doesn't have any real way from stopping its opponents from playing Magic (e.g., mana denial). One Shardless player drew himself into 9th at Prague, and 2 more ended up in the top 32. It performed basically at expectations for putting 12 copies into the top 100 at Prague (4/32 = 12.5%), and lost to ANT in the top 8, which is also in line with expectations. I agree that Eldrazi significantly underperformed.

    I'll withold comment on Columbus until I see the top 16 and 32.

    Edit: Given the quantity of Miracles and Delver in the top 32 at Columbus I'm surprised Eldrazi and especially Shardless didn't do better there. It's possible that Shardless hit the combo (or D&T) bracket early on day 2 while Eldrazi got gobbled up by Delver, which in turn beat the combo? Reports from folks who were there?

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    Was there no undefeated day 2 deck in the US? I can't seem to find it on the mothership
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    Re: Top 100 Day 2 meta for both Legacy GPs in US and Europe

    Also, someone post lists when they're up.

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    Re: Top 100 Day 2 meta for both Legacy GPs in US and Europe

    Quote Originally Posted by sdematt View Post
    Also, someone post lists when they're up.

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    Re: Top 100 Day 2 meta for both Legacy GPs in US and Europe

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    Are the Top 8 lists posted or am I bad at interneting?

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    Re: Top 100 Day 2 meta for both Legacy GPs in US and Europe

    They're posted.

    I'm disappointed in the coverage though. So many games and rounds played, so little coverage of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Echelon View Post
    They're posted.

    I'm disappointed in the coverage though. So many games and rounds played, so little coverage of it.
    Really? I was at Prague, and it seemed like there was coverage going on all the time. Don't know about US. Next time there is a Legacy GP in your own backyard, make sure to go there.

    Two epic finals at both GPs, both involving Miracles losing the last game in the most spectacular way. Great for Legacy, really shows the format from its best side.

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    Re: Top 100 Day 2 meta for both Legacy GPs in US and Europe

    Digitally it's scarce at best. Or they're making it incredibly hard to find.

    I'm looking for video coverage over all rounds and reports on more than just a semi final and a final.

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    Try Twitch / Magic / videos. There are 2 hours of coverage from Prague day 1, and 11 hours of day 2.

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    Re: Top 100 Day 2 meta for both Legacy GPs in US and Europe

    Quote Originally Posted by btm10 View Post
    I disagree pretty strongly that Shardless doesn't convert player skill cleanly into wins. Eldrazi gets a fair number of free wins off of Chalice and explosive starts, but Shardless gets very few since all it does is play interactive cards and doesn't have any real way from stopping its opponents from playing Magic (e.g., mana denial). One Shardless player drew himself into 9th at Prague, and 2 more ended up in the top 32. It performed basically at expectations for putting 12 copies into the top 100 at Prague (4/32 = 12.5%), and lost to ANT in the top 8, which is also in line with expectations. I agree that Eldrazi significantly underperformed.

    I'll withold comment on Columbus until I see the top 16 and 32.

    Edit: Given the quantity of Miracles and Delver in the top 32 at Columbus I'm surprised Eldrazi and especially Shardless didn't do better there. It's possible that Shardless hit the combo (or D&T) bracket early on day 2 while Eldrazi got gobbled up by Delver, which in turn beat the combo? Reports from folks who were there?
    Either Eldrazi ran into a bunch of bad match-ups or the players came ill-prepared. Maybe both. Eldrazi is a deck easy to pick up, but hard to master (mainly mulligan decisions and mana sequencing). And those few mastery percentages might have made a difference.

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    Shocking that a 24-26 land chalice deck couldn't navigate a 16 round event but we have an almost perfect brainstorm once again. But let's ban Chalice.

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    Re: Top 100 Day 2 meta for both Legacy GPs in US and Europe

    Might in part just be b/c of the popularity of anyBrainstorm.dec - the number of people piloting decks running Brainstorm is a lot bigger than the number of people piloting decks without Brainstorm. At some point it just becomes a self fulfilling prophecy.

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