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    Re: The Future of the Legacy Decks...

    Quote Originally Posted by Julian23 View Post
    Looking at all these comments over the last pages, you can just 1:1 substitute Counterbalance and Chalice and it would still all make sense.
    Yep. The only positive thing about Miracles is that it stops the format from being overrun by Delver.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zombie View Post
    If you play midrange, other midrange and tempo decks tend to yield nice, interactive, nuanced games. Prison vs. combo is typically boring af (I still just can't even see what's fun in playing Chalice or "Tinker" decks like S&T where you play autowin cards, prison v. combo includes eg. postboard Elves vs. Storm oftentimes), tempo vs. combo (esp. Storm) is often interesting, etc.
    The main attraction to Show and Tell decks is definitely the fact that their power level is so absurdly high that the deck just wins a ton of games on its own, which is variance minimizing in its own way. The same is true of Chalice decks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zombie View Post
    It's starting to feel like your only lens for grading decks is "how does this feel like to play against with Lands?"
    Lands is what I play, and playing is my defence of the format.

    But you'll note that I did mention being the Chalice player post board. What this should imply is that my experience with Chalice has not been confined to Chalice vs Lands, but also includes Chalice vs every other deck in the meta where ill board it in. And I'm telling you it doesn't shut my opponents down as thoroughly as you say. I bring Chalice and Sphere in vs Storm (sometimes seven total pieces) and still usually don't W both G2 & G3. Painter too - I bring in Chalice and still usually lose the match.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zombie View Post
    Of course the games are interactive - half your deck isn't one-drops.
    Gee, do you think so? :tonge:

    Again, I see all kinds of matches as the Chalice player. Mentioning that my games against Chalice remain interactive was kind of tongue-in-cheek. I mean, it's pretty obvious, right?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zombie View Post
    If you play midrange, other midrange and tempo decks tend to yield nice, interactive, nuanced games. Prison vs. combo is typically boring af
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    Re: The Future of the Legacy Decks...

    Quote Originally Posted by btm10 View Post
    The main attraction to Show and Tell decks is definitely the fact that their power level is so absurdly high that the deck just wins a ton of games on its own, which is variance minimizing in its own way. The same is true of Chalice decks.
    I'm just trying to figure out how someone could survive the abject boredom game after game.
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    Yeah, an insanely powerful block which put the "derp!" factor in Legacy completely over the top.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zombie View Post
    I'm just trying to figure out how someone could survive the abject boredom game after game.
    Maybe S&T.
    But Elves or Painter are fascinating!
    Even Storm or High Tide, while not the most interactive decks, can be full of interesting decisions.
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    Re: The Future of the Legacy Decks...

    Quote Originally Posted by Crimhead View Post
    Maybe S&T.
    But Elves or Painter are fascinating!
    Even Storm or High Tide, while not the most interactive decks, can be full of interesting decisions.
    I was pretty much talking I Win Button decks. S&T in general, Elves against nonblue decks, G1 Teeg vs. ANT, and so on.
    Quote Originally Posted by Lemnear
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    Yeah, an insanely powerful block which put the "derp!" factor in Legacy completely over the top.

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    I dabbled in Elves (had it sleeved up for a bit), and had lots of fun grindy games vs blue-less decks that throw me off with discard and/or removal. Or even Chalice for that matter!
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    it's fine to have the variety of decks, even if they may not seem fun. sometimes the value in keeping other decks in check is worth it alone.
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