Is there any tech anyone has found helps a lot vs drs decks? I feel like im beating non drs decks 80%. Grixis delver is like 50% and czech pile is like 35-40%. I have 3x needle in the sb but vs pile it's too little too late most of the time since they have leo, jace, kcommand (for needle), strix etc. Basically only winning when i nut draw them. Anyone found an approach or sb tech that works vs these decks?
I've tried running 1 Pyroclasm and 2 Fatal Push along with 1 Needle. I also have Archfiend of Ifnir mainboard which is another way to go under DRS and deals with a lot of common threats coming from these decks, namely Strix and TNN. You can also try attacking from a different angle with Pack Rat. Overall my results are somewhat similar to yours though; I feel like I'm 4-6 vs BUG/Czech but grixis feels even to slightly-favorable.
Yeh, maybe getting closer to 50% vs czech is just asking too much. I have been thinking about fatal push, decay seems like too much mana to run more than the 1 (for artifacts) that i have in the sb. I've tried pack rat and didn't end up like it at all. Pyroclasm prob has the same problem as decay, by the time you fire it off and pass the turn and hope to have the combo there is just no way it is going to resolve/not get surgicalled/not have a leovold or jace in play.
I think I'll put some pushes in the sb and see how that goes.
If you're worried about permanents (DRS, Nihil Spellbomb, Cage) against Czech, you could try Ratchet Bomb. Slow but flexible.
If you're wondering how I produce blue mana, I copy my opponent's Island with Thespian's Stage
My Youtube and Twitch usernames are DNSolver.
I am the Legacy metagame:
-2016 Eternal Weekend Europe won by BR Reanimator (I wrote the primer)
-2016 Eternal Weekend North America won by Turbo Dark Depths (I write about and develop the winning version specifically)
-Refiner of Hogaak Depths.
Sadly I will be switching Legacy decks for now, going back to Eldrazi Stompy. I learned a lot working with you all and I be viewing this thread from time to time to help answer questions. Thanks to all for helping me grow but for now I must move on to my next project.
P.S. I will be playing Leylines if we every cross paths!
Good luck, Judas!
Went 2-2 in the Legacy half of a tournament today. Both losses coming from tezz when they Black leyline me before game starts. Technically played “bad” against the first guy when I hard cast sire but that’s all I had and then he drops bridge off a top deck and I never got a chance to come back. Game three he plays into an eventual chalice on 2 after he had 3 leyline out and I had truth in hand but no blue mana (top decked it the following turn)
Next round same deck the guy stops me with counters after I mull to 5 and then tezz wins. Next game he helm combos after I bounce leyline twice with truth and dig for hand hate but I fail. I learned a ton about the matchup and I’ll do better with it next time
Round 1: turn 1 sire and then once we discard he’s on Reanimator (ester with stoneforge package in the side) we laugh. I win. Game 2 I keep a no lander with surgical thinking my chances of drawing into mana isn’t strong and it’s all I needed. I draw pass discard grislebrand and he politely thanks me for the turn two win and I Surgical my own grislebrand. We laugh again. (You can fail to find if you’re targeting yourself and nothing gets revealed) he wins with Batterskull after I fail to find anything meaningful besides chancellor. If I paid for Surgical I won but no mana at the time. Game 3 I sire and win
Round 2: turn one sire and he discards, I see the cradle and I tell him I’m sorry and he agrees that’s its ugly hahaha. We actually go 2-1 here thanks to Surgical after a landed DRS.
Rounds 3&4 of Legacy were the tezz players. If I’m bringing in more big cretches in a matchup and then show and tells so I just scrap animate dead? I’m not really good with taking things out of the deck when siding. I love everything lol
Hello everyone!
What do you prefer to play against Deatn & Taxes?
Massacre or Dread of Night? Why?
I don't prefer to play Dread of Night or Massacre. Spending sideboard slots on extremely narrow cards that would only improve a good matchup is not good in Legacy. Death and Taxes is an excellent matchup for this deck - much more so than typical UB Reanimator. The matchup is, in fact, one of the reasons to play Dark Ritual in Reanimator and one of the matchups that drove the creation of this deck.
Death and Taxes cannot interact with a turn 1 or turn 2 unless they are on the play and can play a 2-drop like Containment Priest, RIP, Thalia, etc. Therefore, against D+T, especially post-board once you know what's going on, mulligan hands that are susceptible to this. I might keep a turn 2 hand on the draw that spends turn 1 Thoughtseizing or Unmasking a hatecard, but otherwise go for a fast hand - this deck has them.
The only card you would definitely want to sideboard in is Archetype of Endurance, as that + Griselbrand should beat almost anything as long as you watch out for Council's Judgment on Archetype.
If you're wondering how I produce blue mana, I copy my opponent's Island with Thespian's Stage
My Youtube and Twitch usernames are DNSolver.
I am the Legacy metagame:
-2016 Eternal Weekend Europe won by BR Reanimator (I wrote the primer)
-2016 Eternal Weekend North America won by Turbo Dark Depths (I write about and develop the winning version specifically)
-Refiner of Hogaak Depths.
I played RB reanimator when the deck initially became a thing (early 2016), and then sold out of it. Ive been playing TES for a while, but got bored and am diving back in with BRg, and unmask not collective brutality. I havent really kept up with the deck, and am wondering how the sideboard should be set up.
Green is less necessary with less miracles around but for a Jund splash I usually set up something like:
2 Reverent Silence
4 Abrupt Decay
2 Massacre
2 Pithing Needle
3 Stronghold Gambit
1 Grave Titan
1 Tidespout Tyrant
With all that being said, once I moved to the white splash and just had 3 wear//tear there was no going back for me.
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