Booking my hotel for SCG DC, anyone else going to be there? Would love to meet in person.
Sell me on why I should play BR Reanimator over tin fins.
Sell me on why I should tell you what deck to play when you could just read both threads and do some goldfishing on your own?Originally Posted by ThomasDowd
I think the biggest thing is the deep seeded emotional understanding that the right play is the right play regardless of outcomes. The ability to make a decision 5 straight times, lose 5 times because of it, and still make it the 6th time if it's the right play. - Jon Finkel
"Notions of chance and fate are the preoccupation of men engaged in rash undertakings."
Should we let him in on the new build?? UWg Griselbrand stompy comin atcha....
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Fair enough. Just trying to shortcut with the internet, mostly because the internet exists. I will get right on that Dick. I'll let you know how it goes.
Nah I'm not posting a primer until after the GP.
I think the biggest thing is the deep seeded emotional understanding that the right play is the right play regardless of outcomes. The ability to make a decision 5 straight times, lose 5 times because of it, and still make it the 6th time if it's the right play. - Jon Finkel
"Notions of chance and fate are the preoccupation of men engaged in rash undertakings."
Shit... sorry dude. Didn't mean to let the onion out of the bag.
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I think the biggest thing is the deep seeded emotional understanding that the right play is the right play regardless of outcomes. The ability to make a decision 5 straight times, lose 5 times because of it, and still make it the 6th time if it's the right play. - Jon Finkel
"Notions of chance and fate are the preoccupation of men engaged in rash undertakings."
The deck is simpler in my opinion. Tin fins is basically Storm with Griselbrand as an engine. That means you need a mixture of both reanimating and storming. That complicates things. IMO you should pay dedicated storm or reanimating to combat the hate associated with both.
Rather than spending several turns sculpting the perfect hand to try to go off you're trying to go off with what you have backed by proactive disruption. Tin fins tries to combo off for lethal the turn you get the pieces, whereas B/R reanimator tries to get to a board state where the opponent can't come back and worry about swinging for lethal later. This means your lines of play are more flexible and allows you to increase threat redundancy, which in turn increases turn 1-2 consistency.
Tin Fins is for durdlers. This deck if you want turn 0 wins.
Not familiar with that line of play, has the deck changed significantly lately?
I think the biggest thing is the deep seeded emotional understanding that the right play is the right play regardless of outcomes. The ability to make a decision 5 straight times, lose 5 times because of it, and still make it the 6th time if it's the right play. - Jon Finkel
"Notions of chance and fate are the preoccupation of men engaged in rash undertakings."
The meta breakdown for Eternal Weekend had 48 Reanimator decks of all variants (BRx, UB, Tin Fins, etc). It was the fourth most represented archetype according to these stats (scroll down past the top8 decklists).
Comparing that to the top 25 decks (as compiled by the community), we can see that there are zero Reanimator decks in the top 25.
Sneak and Show was 6.89% of the meta and put two decks into the top 25. Reanimator was 6.75% of the meta and put zero decks into the top 25. TES (2.25%) and Turbo Depths (2.67%) each put one deck into the top 25 despite having much fewer pilots.
This is all just to point out the fact that Reanimator decks of all flavours performed very poorly in the EW 2017 meta. Forty eight people brought a Reanimator deck, and none of them made top 25 (although there may have been one in the top 32, but I haven't verified that).
The poor showing of BR Reanimator at EW 2017 hadn't been mentioned in this thread yet, so I thought I'd jot it down. If anyone has any thoughts on this I'd be curious to hear them. Particularly if you have any thoughts or feelings about how BR Reanimator could adapt to such a harsh meta.
Do we have any idea what the biggest stumbling block decks to Reanimator success were during the tournament? Was it the T25 decks themselves? Or was it a Delver decks that beat Reanimator, but the T25 decks beat the Delver decks kinda thing?
I think people were overly prepared for it. People hate losing on turn 1. The meta itself was also pretty hostile to it. There was a large amount of Deathrite Shaman, many of which were Delver decks.
It's the easiest deck to hate out between Deathrite Shaman and SBs to begin with, and unlike Storm most of the hate for Reanimator has other applications vs the rest of the field. When people SB against say Storm, they just end up adding more counters which can be met with parity by Storm adding more discard etc. but grave hate either exceeds parity by taking away a discard outlet and a discard target or requires you to remove it from the board, so the blowback you face when people are prepared is pretty huge. There's no way for you to race the SB hate because it can be turn 0, uncounterable and manaless etc. as well so just being faster is only a really good strategy vs Deathrite Shaman.
Meta just kinda sucks for graveyard shenanigans in general right now. 4/5 decks running DRS, and maindeck RiP/Helm is back. I think Br in particular was really well suited for a meta full of Chalice decks without much in the way of permission or grave hate. Those decks haven't completely disappeared, but they seem to have declined a lot compared to 3-4 months ago.
I think the biggest thing is the deep seeded emotional understanding that the right play is the right play regardless of outcomes. The ability to make a decision 5 straight times, lose 5 times because of it, and still make it the 6th time if it's the right play. - Jon Finkel
"Notions of chance and fate are the preoccupation of men engaged in rash undertakings."
Eesh. Doesn't sound healthy for my favorite deck right now. Time to build Sneak-n-Show??
Anyone in DC ATM? Currently with a my friends on sneak and show and esper blade. Going into with BR and going to try to see my chances.
Good luck at the event! Any chance you can give a quick write-up on your impressions with the deck playing at EW + SCG DC next week?
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